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Keep Christ in Christmas: For or Against |
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byndrsn Platinum Member
Joined: 01 Jun 2003 Posts: 848 Location: Cambria County
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Posted: Thursday Oct 05, 2006 |
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Okay folks, this poll (and the other nine like it) are being done because of a political discussion that is being held in the General Discussion section of RockPage.
Let us know your stance!!!
Urbs _________________ A liberal is someone who feels a great debt to his fellow man; a debt he proposes to pay off with your money. -G Gordon Liddy |
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bassist_25 Senior Member
Joined: 09 Dec 2002 Posts: 6815 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Thursday Oct 05, 2006 |
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Christmas is a Christain holiday (though technically it was originally a pagan holiday, but I digress). _________________ "He's the electric horseman, you better back off!" - old sKool making a reference to the culturally relevant 1979 film. |
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bfoust Platinum Member
Joined: 24 May 2004 Posts: 506 Location: Earth
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Posted: Monday Oct 09, 2006 |
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For Christmas.
Against Santa. |
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Punkinhead Diamond Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Posts: 1431 Location: The ninth circle of Hell
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Posted: Monday Oct 09, 2006 |
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bassist_25 wrote: | For
Christmas is a Christain holiday (though technically it was originally a pagan holiday, but I digress). |
Technically, wasn't Christ born around March as well?
Interesting thought for the religious people out there:
Annogram for Santa: Satan.
Santa's main purpose? Making Christmas about gifts and diluting the true meaning of the Christian holiday, which is quite the satanic act.
Of course, this does not confuse Santa with the real St. Nicholas, who actually did give gifts to children and did a lot for spreading good amongst people. _________________ If youth knew; if age could. |
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bassist_25 Senior Member
Joined: 09 Dec 2002 Posts: 6815 Location: Indiana
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Posted: Monday Oct 09, 2006 |
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Punkinhead wrote: |
Technically, wasn't Christ born around March as well?
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Yeah, I think you may be right. Also, it's believed that it actually took the three wise men a couple of months travel to reach Bethlehem. _________________ "He's the electric horseman, you better back off!" - old sKool making a reference to the culturally relevant 1979 film. |
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ToonaRockGuy Diamond Member
Joined: 17 Dec 2002 Posts: 3091 Location: Altoona, behind a drumset.
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Posted: Monday Oct 09, 2006 |
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Neutral. Most people don't even think of it as Christmas, just X-Mas, so what the hell. _________________ Dood... |
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songsmith Senior Member
Joined: 09 Dec 2002 Posts: 6108 Location: The Wood of Bells
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Posted: Monday Oct 09, 2006 |
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Until about 120 years ago (out of 2000 Christmases), it was just a holy day, no gifts, no nothing. Now it's just a consumer-spending aphrodisiac. I enjoy giving people gifts, but it gets to be too much, and I know kids who flat-out expect to be lavished upon.
The whole keep-Christ-in-Christmas thing was big on talk radio last year... it's a surefire way to play to the Conservative/Elderly/Religious base. I'd rather keep-funding-in-public-schools. Bah humjob.------>JMS |
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SpellboundByMetal Diamond Member
Joined: 18 Apr 2005 Posts: 2381 Location: Metal HQ
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VENTGtr Diamond Member
Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 1543
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Posted: Friday Oct 27, 2006 |
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When Jesus was born is actually unknown. For many years it was believed that it was
in August some time but there seems to be an idea that it was late-September now.
It was moved to the end of December because there were other holidays at that time.
Even now, you can go different places and celebrate Christmas on different days (Orthodox
Christmas is in January).
Originally, in Puritan times and prior, it was teated as just another day because the idea was
that EVERY day was to be celebrated as God's day. Anything ostentatious was heretical.
Christmas today is a commercial endeavour, nothing more. I am agnostic (Grew up Southern Baptist) but have Christian friends who believe that the "Christ" factor needs to
be removed from the holiday because it's offensive that "His" name is being used to sell
and that most people who defend the religious aspect have no idea, and take no part, in
it's celebration. _________________ DaveP.
"You must be this beautiful to ride the Quagmire." |
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Punkinhead Diamond Member
Joined: 19 Jun 2003 Posts: 1431 Location: The ninth circle of Hell
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Posted: Friday Oct 27, 2006 |
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I think I remember one of my friends (who is rather large into paganism and the like) tell me that Christmas (December 25) is actually a Pagan holiday...That doesn't explain why it's set then but, well this was already said so this post is just one more to my count. _________________ If youth knew; if age could. |
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VENTGtr Diamond Member
Joined: 25 Oct 2005 Posts: 1543
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Posted: Friday Oct 27, 2006 |
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Punkinhead,
Yer right, Dec. 24th/25th was a Pagan holiday (Some astronomers believe it used to be one of the shortest days of the year so held meaning). Also,
since Christianity is so heavily-based in Judaism, who celebrate Haunauka... in whatever way you want to spell it...at about the same time, it made sense for early Christian leaders to place the holiday there.
Easier to convert some people if they see less chenge in their lives and
don't want to be the only ones on their dirt street NOT celebrating.
Is really interesting how many Pagan rituals influenced Christmas (The
Christmas tree! How pine trees and egg-laying rabbits worked their way
into the two biggest Christian holidays is truly God's greatest miracle! Made THOSE PR moves work? DANG, THAT'S POWER! Not mockin', just
levity). _________________ DaveP.
"You must be this beautiful to ride the Quagmire." |
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MeYatch Diamond Member
Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 1586
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Posted: Thursday Mar 08, 2007 |
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december 22nd is the winter solstice. Perhaps it has moved a few days in 2000 years though? _________________ Stand back, I like to rock out. |
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DirtySanchez Diamond Member
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 4186 Location: On teh internetz
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Posted: Thursday Mar 08, 2007 |
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Summer= solstice
Winter=Equinox I think, though I may be totally full of shit. _________________ "You are now either a clueless inbred brownshirt Teabagger, or a babykilling hippie Marxist on welfare."-Songsmith |
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MeYatch Diamond Member
Joined: 23 Sep 2005 Posts: 1586
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Posted: Friday Mar 09, 2007 |
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sol·stice /ˈsɒlstɪs, ˈsoʊl-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[sol-stis, sohl-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. Astronomy. a. either of the two times a year when the sun is at its greatest distance from the celestial equator: about June 21, when the sun reaches its northernmost point on the celestial sphere, or about December 22, when it reaches its southernmost point. Compare summer solstice, winter solstice.
e·qui·nox /ˈikwəˌnɒks, ˈɛkwə-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[ee-kwuh-noks, ek-wuh-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. the time when the sun crosses the plane of the earth's equator, making night and day of approximately equal length all over the earth and occurring about March 21 (vernal equinox or spring equinox) and September 22 (autumnal equinox). _________________ Stand back, I like to rock out. |
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DirtySanchez Diamond Member
Joined: 14 Feb 2006 Posts: 4186 Location: On teh internetz
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Posted: Friday Mar 09, 2007 |
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Yeah, totally full of shit. Thanks for clearing that up. _________________ "You are now either a clueless inbred brownshirt Teabagger, or a babykilling hippie Marxist on welfare."-Songsmith |
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Killjingle Diamond Member
Joined: 10 Dec 2002 Posts: 1714 Location: Elton
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Posted: Wednesday Mar 14, 2007 |
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maybe its all hype and bullshit. maybe not.
It makes more ppl happy than depressed. It gives me and my brother and our lovely ladies a reason to drink beer, eat well, give unto each other, and hang out together.
I say do what U want in your own heart. Only u know how u feel about YOUR god and his disciples. _________________ Everyone wants to go to heaven but noone wants to die |
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seven_star_customz Active Member
Joined: 26 Aug 2007 Posts: 42 Location: EVeret PA
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Posted: Sunday Sep 02, 2007 |
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[Yeah, I think you may be right. Also, it's believed that it actually took the three wise men a couple of months travel to reach Bethlehem.[/quote]
accually it took the 3 wise men 3 years to find jesus. |
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