Rob fought the law and, Rob won!

[BDR]

On Feb. 21, on the way to a show at Davey's Lounge in Hastings, Jim and I both got speeding tickets in the same place at a speed trap. There's a thread up if you want more details.

http://www.rockpage.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=21674

Anyway, on the advice of ZappasX, I pleaded not guilty to the $140 ticket, counting on the part-time weekend borough cop not showing up for a weekday hearing due to having a day job or something. Well, the cop didn't show and the ticket was thrown out this morning. Thanks, ZXW! you rock!

r:>)

[JackANSI]

Awesome

[Banned]

Good for you Rob, that Magistrate (Zungali) up there is a FUCKIN' Crook anyway...and his nephew is a bitch.

[mjb]

i love it when that happens! a little cop psycology?

sweet!

[VENTGtr]

NICE! She's still hot...and now taken down a peg or so.

[lonewolf]

[slackin@dabass]

good job sticking it to the man. i'm sure there is a drug ring or something they could be breaking up instead of hassling local musicians, anyhow.

[Big-H]

get lottery ticket now:)

[metalchurch]

...I pleaded not guilty to the $140 ticket, counting on the part-time weekend borough cop not showing up....Well, the cop didn't show and the ticket was thrown out this morning. r:>)

...and Jim plead guilty and paid his.

[Naga]

That'll teach the man to be too much of the man!

[Colton]

'atta'boy

[ZappasXWife]

Now if only Jim (whoever he is) would start listening to me.....

I'm so glad it worked out for you BDR!
Now, next time maybe we need to slow down a little bit.

[DirtySanchez]

Good for you Rob, that Magistrate (Zungali) up there is a FUCKIN' Crook anyway...and his nephew is a bitch.

I never had a problem with him. Used to drink with him almost every day though. lol

[Asundor]

GONGRATS ROB!!!! SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME YEARS AND YEARS AGO. I WAS AT A CREED SHOW AT THE CROWBAR AND IT WAS ALMOST OVER AND SOME PEOPLE WERE GETTING ROWDY ON THE FLOOR THERE. ONE OF THE TUFF GUYS OR SHOULD I SAY SECURITY GUYS WALKED DOWN AND TRIED CLEARING IT UP. WELL SOMEONE GOT OUT OF HAND AND HE WAVED TO HIS BUDDIES TO COME AND HELP HIM. MIND YOU ME NOR ANY OF THE OTHER PEOPLE I WAS WITH THAT NIGHT DID ANYTHING WHAT SO EVER TO GET KICKED OUT. ANYHOW ABOUT 7 OR 8 SECURITY GUYS CAME AND JUST STARTED GRABBING PEOPLE FROM RANDOM TO KICK OUT. MOST THE PEOPLE LEFT WITHOUT A FIGHT. AND OF COURSE THEY LOOKED AT US. AND WAS LKE YOU GUYS ALL OUT NOW. AND I WAS LIKE WE NEVER WAS INVOLVED IN THIS SHIT. AND HE LOOKED AT ME AN SAID DO YOU WANT ME TO REMOVE YOU MYSELF. I TOLD HIM LOOK MAN I DONT KNOW WHAT YOU SEEN BUT WE HAD NO PART IN THAT SHIT. SO THE ASSHOLE GRABS ME AND I WHIP MY ARM AWAY FROM HIM AND TOLD HIM NEVER TO TOUCH ME AGAIN. BEFORE I KNOW IT I HAD SEVEN BASTARDS CARRING ME OUT OF THE CROWBAR. WELL OF COURSE YOU WOULD NEVER THINK IT WOULD TAKE 7 HUGE DUDES TO CARRY ONE PERSON OUT SO YA I STARTED TRYING TO BREAK FREE. ONE HAD ME BY THE TROAT AND I COULDN'T EVEN BREATH AT THE TIME, EACH HAD A LEG AND AN ARM, AND GO FIGURE WHAT ONE OF THEM DID. ONE WAS STANDING RIGHT IN FRONT OF ME AND REMIND YOU I WASEN'T JUST BEING CARRIED OUT ON FREE WILL SO YA I STARTED GETTING REALLY PISSED. THE ONE GUY IN THE MIDDLE WALKS RIGHT UP TO ME AND GRABS MY , YA YOU KNOW!!!! AND SQUEEZED SO HARD I THOUGHT I WAS GOING TO DIE. THATS WHEN I THOUGHT OK YOU WANNA PLAY. WELL I FIGURED THEY DIDN'T PLAY FAIR SO NEITHER WILL I. SO I STARTED WITH THE GUY WHO HAD MY RIGHT ARM AND WHIPPED MY ARM UP TILL HIS HAND WAS CLOSE TO MY MOUTH AND I BIT HIS HAND SO HARD AND TOOK A PIECE OF HIS HAND WITH ME. THATS NO SHIT. I WASEN'T PLAYING ANY MORE AT THIS POINT. I WAS READY TO FIGHT TILL DEATH. SO HE STARTED TO WING AT ME WITH HIS OTHER HAND. I ENDED UP GETTING ABLE TO YANK MY RIGHT FOOT FROM THE ONE GUY, AND IM GLAD I DID CAUSE I GOT MY REVENGE ON THE GUY THE GRABBED MY SHIT. AS SOON AS MY LEG GOT FREE I KICKED HIM RIGHT IN THE TEETH. AND I MEEN I NEVER KICKED SOMEONE SO HARD IN MY LIFE. NEEDLES TO SAY MY BALLS HURT BUT THAT BITCH WAS MISSING A TOOTH AND GOT STITCHCES IN HIS LIP THAT NIGHT. BUY THAT TIME I WAS MAKING MY WAY OUT THE DOOR OF THE CROWBAR STILL FIGHTING MIND YOU. THEY ENDED UP ALL DROPPING ME RIGHT IN THE ENTRANCE WAY. AND TOLD ME THEY WOULD KILL ME IF I DIDN'T LEAVE. SO ON MY WAY OUT I HAD TO GIVE THE DOOR A GOOD KICK. I KICKED THE DOOR SO HARD LOL THAT THE DAMN THING FELL OFF. ONCE AGAIN THE GUY THAT GOT KICKED IN THE MOUTH RAN UP TO ME LIKE HE WAS GOING TO KILL ME AGAIN. AND SIMPLY LOOKED AT EVERYONE ONE OF THEM AND SAID NEXT MOTHER F--KER THAT TOUCHES ME I SWEAR IS DEAD. AND TOLD THEM THAT I WILL BE IN TOUCH WITH MY LAWYER CAUSE THEY WILL BE GETTING THE SHIT SUED OUT OF THEM. SO THEY ALL KINDA LAUGHED IT OFF. BY THAT TIME THE COPS CAME. THEY TOLD THERE STORY, I TOLD MINE AT THE STATION. AND GO FIGURE SOME GREAT PERSON THERE THAT WAS WATCHING THE SHOW ACTUALLY WALKED OVER TO THE OFFICERS TAKING INFO ON WHAT HAD HAPPENED, THEY TOLD THE COPS THAT WE DIDN'T DO NOTHING AT ALL THAT THEY SEEN WHAT THEY DID. WELL THE COPS COME UP TO THE SHOP WHERE THEY WERE QUESTIONING ME WHAT HAPPENED AND TOLD ME THEY SPOKE WITH SOMEONE THAT DEFENDED WHAT REALLY HAPPENED. THEY SAID THE OWNER OF THE CROWBAR OR WHOEVER WAS GOING TO SUE ME FOR DAMAGES I DID TO THERE DOOR, AND I JUST LAUGHED, AND SAID O'YA WERE SEE WHO'S GOING TO SUE WHO. YOU RELATE THAT BACK TO HIM. ANYHOW I GOT TO LEAVE AND GO HOME. FEW WEEKS LATER I GOT A PAPER IN THE MAIL FOR A COURT DATE. TELLING ME THEY WERE HAVING A HEARING AND EVERYONE THAT WAS INVOLVED THAT NIGHT WAS GOING TO BE THERE. AND IN THE MAIL WAS ANOTHER NOTICE FROM THE OWNER/OR WHOEVER WITH THE ESTIMATE OF REPAIRS TO THE DOOR. SAYING DAMAGES TO THE DOOR EXSEEDED LIKE $2500.00 WHEN I WENT TO THE HEARING IN STATE COLLEGE. I WAS LIKE I HAVE NO CHANCE WINNING THIS MY LUCK IS ALWAYS SHIT. WELL I WALKED IN AND THERE'S NO ONE THERE. NOT EVEN MY ATTORNEY LOL. I WAS LIKE WHAT THE F--K!!!! I WENT IN AND THE JUDGE WAS LIKE WHO ARE YOU. I TOLD HIM MY NAME, HE TOLD ME TO HAVE A SEAT SO I DID. I WAITED A HALF HOUR, STILL NO ONE. HE LOOKED UP AT THE CLOCK AND SAID I DONT KNOW WHERE THERE AT BUT I HAVE OTHER THINGS TO TAKE CARE OF IF PEOPLE CANT BE HERE ON TIME. I WAS LIKE YA THIS COULD NEVER HAPPEN TO ME THE WAY I'D LIKE IT TO. ANOTHER 15 MINUTES COME AROUND. STILL NO ONE. HE SAID MISTER SATTA TODAY MIGHT BE YOUR LUCKY DAY. AND I SAID WHY'S THAT SIR. JUDGE GOES IM GIVING THEM 5 MORE MINUTES TO GET HERE IF THERE NOT HERE IM DROPPING ALL CHARGES PENDING TOWRDS YOU, I SAID OK. WELL THAT 5 MINUTES THAT SEEMED LIKE ANOTHER HOUR PASSED. HE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID GUESS WHAT YOU GOT YOUR WISH I JUST CHUCKELED LOL AND WALKED. WHEN I WAS WALKING OUT THE DOOR AND STARTED GOING DOWN THE HALLWAY MAYBE NOT EVEN 20 OR 30 FEET, I STARTED TO SEE THEM WALKING IN ANOTHER DOOR. I GOT OUTSIDE AND RAN SO FAST TO MY CAR THEY WEREN'T IN NO WAY DRAGGING MY ASS BACK IN THERE. I WAS GONE AND FREE. AFTER THAT I FILED A SUIT WITH THE GUY THAT RAN THE ESTABLISHMENT AND TOLD HIM I WAS GOING TO SUE HIS ASS FOR WHAT HAPPENED THAT NIGHT. HE TOLD ME THAT SOMEONE ELSE ALSO TOLD HIM THE TRUTH ABOUT WHAT HAPPENED, AND TOLD ME HE WAS VERY SORRY, AND THE GUYS THAT DID THIS TO ME WAS NO LONGER THERE. NO WOULD THEY EVER STEP FOOT IN THERE AGAIN. AND THAT HE WOULD TAKE CARE OF THE DAMAGE'S HIMSELF. AND I WONT SAY WHAT ELSE I GOT OUT OF THE DEAL BUT I ENDED UP BEING SATISFIED OVER THE MATTER. ALL THOUGH MY BALLS STILL HURT FROM TIME TO TIME.!!!

[Jones]

So, were you speeding? If so, is this "harrassing local musicians?" I mean come on, the guy was just doing his job if you were speeding. He's gotta eat just like the rest of us.

[BDR]

Don't think so. Wasn't looking at the speedometer, honestly. Been driving that trip for six years and the speed limit in town is 25. I'm always very aware of it cuz there's always cops in town, plus I don't speed driving through towns with narrow streets anyway, I'm old. As you leave town, first there's a 90 degree left hand turn, then it proceeds up hill and into the woods into a 35 for about 100 yards, then flips to a 45.

The cop said I was doing 50 in the 35 in a GMC Jimmy, which means I would've had to hit it in the ass pretty good after the hard left to get up to 50 in that very short 35 zone. Not possible. My truck is not a race car by any means.

Plus, she wasn't using radar. That magistrate is notorious for throwing tickets out when radar wasn't used.

Harassing? I'd say yes the way it went down. To pick both me and my drummer in 30 minutes at the same spot? She was joking about it while trying to take $140 out of both of our pockets, then laughed about it some more at 3 a.m. when she recognized us at Sheetz, meantime, numerous drunk people were stumbling out of the Sheetz door and into their cars while she sipped her coffee, joking around about our tickets. Someone was padding the borough coffer during her part-time job. As was said, I'm sure there's some real criminals out there to bust and I';m sure the Patton townspeople would appreciate the cops addressing that other than screwing with people trying to earn a living.

r:>)

[BDR]

Good for you Rob, that Magistrate (Zungali) up there is a FUCKIN' Crook anyway...and his nephew is a bitch.

He was pretty cool actually. I was in the courtroom by myself, then he came in, sat down and said something like, "The police have the burden to testify to this, you as the defendant have no obligation to offer any testimony."

He then pointed at the empty chair where the cop should've been and said," There is no one here to offer testimony for the police. Would you like to testify?"

I said, "No sir."

He said, "Not guilty. Case dismissed."

I said "Thank you," and jetted.



r:>)

[bassist_25]

So, were you speeding? If so, is this "harrassing local musicians?" I mean come on, the guy was just doing his job if you were speeding. He's gotta eat just like the rest of us.

I also have experience with this particular officer, coming home from a gig ironically enough. In the parking lot of the venue, some person decided to pull their truck lenght-wise and diagonal from my car. It was pretty stupid and inconsiderate on his part, as I was pulled in straight like most people would do. While trying to herd a bunch of straggling drunks into his vehicle, I got impatient and figured I had enough room to back out.

It turns out that I bumped the truck while backing out. I honestly didn't know. I got pulled over by this officer suspecting that I was intoxicated. Fair enough. She seemed quite suprised and obnoxious that I was not cognizant that I bumped the truck. She also said that "I almost hit" a silver car coming out of the parking lot. I didn't even come close to hitting that car. Her cognitive perception of the situation was biased because she thought I was drunk. I got a breathalyzer. I blew my 0.0. She changed her attitude real quick. I had "just bumped" the truck, when before you'd swear I totaled the fucking thing when she figured that I was drunk. I was driving a Ford Focus at the time. I didn't hear nor feel the impact.

I'm not pissed that I was pulled over. There was reaonsable cause do so. It's the inferiority-complex power-tripping that pisses me off. She thought she had some dumb ass drunk kid, so it was a nice feeling to blow that 0.0. Chick needs to take a fucking cognitive psychology course so she understands how she processes information and how her preconieved notions can be totally wrong. Also, as Rob stated, on the night that he and Jim got pulled over, she was letting drunk after drunk walk out of Sheetz and get into their vehicles.

[BDR]

To sum up Future Bobby's thoughts, she's a crazy B. r:>)

[RobTheDrummer]

GONGRATS ROB!!!! SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME YEARS AND YEARS AGO I WAS GETTING ROWDY AND JUST STARTED GRABBING ASSHOLE AND I WHIPPED MY ARM UP TILL HIS HAND WAS CLOSE TO MY MOUTH AND I BIT HIS SHIT. I WAS READY TO YANK MY BALLS SO HARD LOL THAT THE DAMN THING FELL OFF. MY LAWYER LAUGHED AND SAID O'YA MY LUCK IS ALWAYS SHIT. WHAT THE F--K!!!! I WENT IN AND THE JUDGE WAS LIKE THIS COULD NEVER HAPPEN TO ME THE WAY I'D LIKE IT TO. HE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID GUESS WHAT YOU GOT MY ASS BACK IN THERE. HE WAS VERY SORRY, ALL THOUGH MY BALLS STILL HURT FROM TIME TO TIME.!!!

A few edits cleared that right up.

[VENTGtr]

Next time you're at...this particular venue, you should break into "Rob
fought the law and, Rob won!"...to the obvious music of course.

[songsmith]

LOLing at your edits, RTD. It was a pretty good story, though, if a bit hard to read. Asundor, that whole story sounds like something that would have happened to me back in the day, I had a way of being nearby when sh*t went down... luckily, I never wound up quite that deep in it. --->JMS

[RFBuck]

That's effing GREAT, dude!!! Way to go!!!

[Bag]

GONGRATS ROB!!!! SAME THING HAPPENED TO ME YEARS AND YEARS AGO I WAS GETTING ROWDY AND JUST STARTED GRABBING ASSHOLE AND I WHIPPED MY ARM UP TILL HIS HAND WAS CLOSE TO MY MOUTH AND I BIT HIS SHIT. I WAS READY TO YANK MY BALLS SO HARD LOL THAT THE DAMN THING FELL OFF. MY LAWYER LAUGHED AND SAID O'YA MY LUCK IS ALWAYS SHIT. WHAT THE F--K!!!! I WENT IN AND THE JUDGE WAS LIKE THIS COULD NEVER HAPPEN TO ME THE WAY I'D LIKE IT TO. HE LOOKED AT ME AND SAID GUESS WHAT YOU GOT MY ASS BACK IN THERE. HE WAS VERY SORRY, ALL THOUGH MY BALLS STILL HURT FROM TIME TO TIME.!!!

A few edits cleared that right up.