hey need some honest opinons here

brian's girl · Post by **brian's girl** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:38 pm

i am a lead vocalist in an altoona area band. well when i formed the band my guitar player and i were the vocals for all our songs. he left early in the spring due to personal issues and i changed the line up to female/ male fronted vocalists. my guitar player recently came back and he wants to kick out my co-vocalist. the rest of us aren't on board with this decision. what is the best thing for me to do?

please help!

JackANSI · Post by **JackANSI** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:40 pm

Thunderdome... nuff said..

Tegamal · Post by **Tegamal** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:46 pm

Did he leave saying he'd be back after he got his issues worked out or that it was just temporary?

If not, I'd say too damn bad. Do what's best for the band, man. You don't divorce a chick, then want to get back together with her after she's remarried.

moxham123 · Post by **moxham123** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 5:49 pm

Mic stands at 50 paces.

Seriously, if he left on his own accord and was replaced with somebody you want to keep, it is no longer his band.

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:02 pm

Tegamal wrote:Did he leave saying he'd be back after he got his issues worked out or that it was just temporary?

If not, I'd say too damn bad. Do what's best for the band, man. You don't divorce a chick, then want to get back together with her after she's remarried.

That pretty much sums up my thoughts.

REDillon · Post by **REDillon** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:14 pm

Keep new chick
Old guitar player can be roadie.

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:15 pm

REDillon wrote: Old guitar player can be roadie.

...or cage dancer if that's your thing.

REDillon · Post by **REDillon** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 6:20 pm

I may have a job for him at our next show.......

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 7:15 pm

Tell him you know some other singers...go start another band.

Plastered Bastards · Post by **Plastered Bastards** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:25 pm

Punch him in the face

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 8:50 pm

kick him in the nads ...

joltinjeff · Post by **joltinjeff** » Fri Aug 14, 2009 10:06 pm

REDillon wrote:Keep new chick
Old guitar player can be roadie.

First I am not a chick and second of all I am the MALE vocalist. I AM WILLING TO HELP YOU OUT ANY WAY I CAN RED!!

If you seemed confused about this let me see if I can help out.
The first guitar player left and then the replacement guitarist left and then the first one came back.
While I accept the fact that he was one of the orginal members of the band, he was well aware of the new lineup and the changes WE made. He was all for it or so he said.
I offered to step aside to avoid conflict and all the BS, however the other 3 members of the band said they wanted me to stay. A band should be a democracy and as far as I am concerned, WE all have a voice in what goes on. I am not sure if it is an ego thing with this 20-yo or what. All I know is that while WE were deciding about opening for another band, he was all for what WE discussed, we went back and started going over the setlist and jammed like we had been together for awhile. I thought things were fine until about 4 hrs after practice and I asked the question.
If it is a "star" thing, he needs to hold on because I dont think there are any stars in a band, except the band. I could go on, but I have rambled enough about it.

That's all I hafta say about that - Forrest Gump

Charltor · Post by **Charltor** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 3:17 am

JackANSI wrote:Thunderdome... nuff said..

"Two men enter one man leaves!"
"Two men enter one man leaves!"
"Two men enter one man leaves!"

T@rgetDrone · Post by **T@rgetDrone** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 9:14 pm

It's seems simple enough to me based on what's been said. He (the guy in question) left, returned and agreed to the current program. Even so, Jeff tried to make sure everyone was still on board (very nice of you to go the extra mile). If the returning guitarist is all of a sudden having second thoughts then he should step aside. If there is a pending gig or several pending gigs that are reliant upon his participation, he should honor the dates first, then step aside. That is the adult way to handle it. Otherwise the drama will continue and eventually drive a bigger wedge between current members.

Just my two cents worth.

joltinjeff · Post by **joltinjeff** » Sat Aug 15, 2009 11:37 pm

T@rgetDrone wrote:It's seems simple enough to me based on what's been said. He (the guy in question) left, returned and agreed to the current program. Even so, Jeff tried to make sure everyone was still on board (very nice of you to go the extra mile). If the returning guitarist is all of a sudden having second thoughts then he should step aside. If there is a pending gig or several pending gigs that are reliant upon his participation, he should honor the dates first, then step aside. That is the adult way to handle it. Otherwise the drama will continue and eventually drive a bigger wedge between current members.

Just my two cents worth.

Thanks for the kind words T@rgetDrone. Again, I offered to step aside from the project to keep the peace. I knew something was up and asked the question. My co-vocalist did not have to tell me what was said. She was very kind in letting me know what was going on, even if she did hesitate at doing so. I thank her for it. I had a hard time dealing with this and lost sleep over it because I was trying to figure out what the hell I had done. But the backing of the three other members of the band and their votes of confidence made me feel better. I am not sure how this is going to work out and honestly I hope he straightens out and remains, if not then that is the way things go.

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 5:23 pm

Charltor wrote:
JackANSI wrote:Thunderdome... nuff said..
"Two men enter one man leaves!"
"Two men enter one man leaves!"
"Two men enter one man leaves!"

Does that guy's shirt say GOAT FUCKER....look at it....Goat Fucker!!

brian's girl · Post by **brian's girl** » Sun Aug 16, 2009 11:48 pm

thanks to you all for your insight, hopefully jeff, me and the other 2 members who agree with us can straighten this out. i hope to see you all very soon, and to the musicians out there who put on about the violence of punchin in the face, kicking in the nads and the cage fight photo, thank you that put a smile on my face!

joltinjeff · Post by **joltinjeff** » Mon Aug 17, 2009 3:09 am

brian's girl wrote:thanks to you all for your insight, hopefully jeff, me and the other 2 members who agree with us can straighten this out. i hope to see you all very soon, and to the musicians out there who put on about the violence of punchin in the face, kicking in the nads and the cage fight photo, thank you that put a smile on my face!

Im glad you thought so Chris!

I was wondering if I would have to find someone to train me for the MMAs. Christ on his Throne you ppl are freakin violent

Any way, along with Chris, I want to thank all of you for the input. We really hope to see you all soon.

Jeff

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