Do you know what really bugs me as a guitar player???

onegunguitar · Post by **onegunguitar** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 5:22 pm

Flaw wrote:
onegunguitar wrote:
DirtySanchez wrote:
It's just part of life. You go from angry young man to jaded old bastard.
Well,I guess I'm at the jaded old bastard stage,haha.
no comment

Smartest thing you've ever done.

nakedtwister · Post by **nakedtwister** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 7:30 pm

gibson980 wrote:my damn point is no matter how good someone from this era is, they are never going to compare to the old folks.

On thing to remember is that at least some of the newbies are getting noticed by the " Old Dudes " . Clapton told the entire audience at Royal Albert Hall, after playing with Bonamassa, " This is the guy you should listen to, not me. He is the future. ". So the torch was passed on by one guitar God. It's not just a guitar thing either. Music anymore is an image thing and being different. There are a lot of local bands around that I would rather see than pay $100.00 a ticket to go see Nickleback. Not to say that NB are not talented but now band are playing into the " Nickleback Syndrome ". I used to like Theory of a Dead Man until they got a new singer that sounds just like Kroger ( spelling? ). Why? Because the chicks dig the NB sound and the quirky songs about something in your mouth and such. It's like rap to me. You can't listen to a song without it being bleeped the *&#@ out every second or so. I'm not saying that expressing yourself with expletives is wrong, but don't do it just because the tweeners buy the CD's. Do it with some heart.

2 cents worth

2 cents worth

sstuckey · Post by **sstuckey** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 9:55 pm

You gotta be kidding me!! You attribute Dimebag's success to his death on stage? You don't suppose he's labeled a 'guitar god' based on the mere fact that he wasn't allowed to participate in any more guitar competions in the state of Texas.....because he won them ALL?!!!! C'mon man

gibson980 · Post by **gibson980** » Tue Feb 23, 2010 11:43 pm

my post says nothing about critiquing dimebags skill. Sorry, its just a fact that not as many people knew/followed pantera before his death. Now if you say "ehh pantera is OK" Your going to hear "are you serious, they had dimebag!" If dime was alive he would still be shredding it up, no doubt. I'm just stating it helped put them more on the map across the country.

sstuckey · Post by **sstuckey** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:35 am

gibson980 wrote:my post says nothing about critiquing dimebags skill. Sorry, its just a fact that not as many people knew/followed pantera before his death. Now if you say "ehh pantera is OK" Your going to hear "are you serious, they had dimebag!" If dime was alive he would still be shredding it up, no doubt. I'm just stating it helped put them more on the map across the country.

Far Beyond Driven debuted at #1 ...... Dimebag was murdered 9 months later. I'm sorry but you're running out of steam on the Dimebag front.

As far as the other guitarists you mentioned, the reason why is rather simple. Innovation. During the highlights of these guys careers they were doing things in music that just hadn't been done before. When these guys found their "gimick" they stumbled across something that nobody else ever did and therefore were god-like. Whether its Jimmy Page playing with a bow, Eddie's invention of multi-finger tapping, or Jimi playing with his teeth, it was all something no one had ever seen before.

As to the reason why don't the newer guys get the credit? There's not much more to invent, it's been done. Is Petrucci 'technically' a better guitarist than almost everyone to ever pick up a guitar? quite possibly. Has he done anything besides perfect what these founding father's have brought to the table? no

Not one single guitarist mentioned in this thread is a shitty guitarist. And judging by the responses to your post, everyone of them is getting the credit they deserve. But always remember the guys in the past carved the roads for the present. Without them, music as we know it today could be alot worse.

witchhunt · Post by **witchhunt** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 12:41 am

sstuckey wrote:During the highlights of these guys careers they were doing things in music that just hadn't been done before.

That's why I have always said I'd much rather have written rock music in the 60's and 70's as opposed to present day. So much easier to come up with something that doesn't sound like another song.

Tegamal · Post by **Tegamal** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:12 am

sstuckey wrote:Far Beyond Driven debuted at #1 ...... Dimebag was murdered 9 months later. I'm sorry but you're running out of steam on the Dimebag front.

Where do you get your facts?!

Far Beyond Driven was released March 15th, 1994. Dime was killed on stage on Dec 8th, 2004. That's ten years, my friend.

sstuckey · Post by **sstuckey** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:22 am

Tegamal wrote:
sstuckey wrote:Far Beyond Driven debuted at #1 ...... Dimebag was murdered 9 months later. I'm sorry but you're running out of steam on the Dimebag front.
Where do you get your facts?!

Far Beyond Driven was released March 15th, 1994. Dime was killed on stage on Dec 8th, 2004. That's ten years, my friend.

touche.......and you're right Dime died in 2004.....and he'll forever be missed. My math was bad but the point was good.

DirtySanchez · Post by **DirtySanchez** » Wed Feb 24, 2010 1:40 pm

I thought he meant years not months.

If it were months he'd be in the running with Pac and Biggie for most post-mortem releases.

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 2:21 am

There is one thing B.B. King has that Joe Bonamassa doesn't: a 65-year career. B.B. King still plays... well.
Career longevity and success, in a line of work where there are ten million kids sitting in their bedrooms trying to take your place, is an admirable thing.--->JMS

Tegamal · Post by **Tegamal** » Thu Feb 25, 2010 3:38 am

sstuckey wrote:
Tegamal wrote:
sstuckey wrote:Far Beyond Driven debuted at #1 ...... Dimebag was murdered 9 months later. I'm sorry but you're running out of steam on the Dimebag front.
Where do you get your facts?!

Far Beyond Driven was released March 15th, 1994. Dime was killed on stage on Dec 8th, 2004. That's ten years, my friend.
touche.......and you're right Dime died in 2004.....and he'll forever be missed. My math was bad but the point was good.

I get a little defensive when it comes to Dime. He was a huge influence on me.

sstuckey · Post by **sstuckey** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 1:02 pm

Tegamal wrote:
sstuckey wrote:
Tegamal wrote: Where do you get your facts?!

Far Beyond Driven was released March 15th, 1994. Dime was killed on stage on Dec 8th, 2004. That's ten years, my friend.
touche.......and you're right Dime died in 2004.....and he'll forever be missed. My math was bad but the point was good.
I get a little defensive when it comes to Dime. He was a huge influence on me.

Oh believe me, the same goes for me. More so his brother Vinnie, since I'm a drummer, but Pantera in general was VERY influencial to me in the 90's. I actually was afforded the oppurtunity to play on the same stage Dime was killed on (Alrosa Villa). The very thought that I was standing on that stage where my idols played, and one was murdered, was surreal. You can even see the bullet holes in the wall. A constant reminder that one of the best ever is no longer with us.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 2:53 pm

I just got 4 Bonamassa CDs I got from a friend. Damn good musician !

brtgoldtop · Post by **brtgoldtop** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:24 pm

John Petrucci is definately my fav. guitarist. He really can do no wrong! The video posted gave me goosebumps, and I have heard that song hundreds of times.
Guitar players have morphed and will continue to do so. John Petrucci. plays with just as much feeling and heart as guitarists like B.B , Clapton, and SRV, ( who are also huge influences of mine).
Ahhh Dammit, I forgot what the actual subject was about, I hate it when that happens, Lets just talk Dream Theater!

nakedtwister · Post by **nakedtwister** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 8:58 pm

Hawk wrote:I just got 4 Bonamassa CDs I got from a friend. Damn good musician !

Hey Jackass they are my Bonamassa CD's.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Mon Mar 01, 2010 9:33 pm

nakedtwister wrote:
Hawk wrote:I just got 4 Bonamassa CDs I got from a friend. Damn good musician !
Hey Jackass they are my Bonamassa CD's.

I said, "...from a friend".

nakedtwister · Post by **nakedtwister** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 9:53 pm

Sorry I thought it was a political post. My Bad.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Tue Mar 02, 2010 10:41 pm

nakedtwister wrote:Sorry I thought it was a political post. My Bad.

I'm on "time out".

Colton · Post by **Colton** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:03 am

Do you know what really bugs me as a guitar player? Having to do shit other than play guitar.

Flaw · Post by **Flaw** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 8:12 am

Colton wrote:Do you know what really bugs me as a guitar player? Having to do shit other than play guitar.

I know man! I hate putting down my Gibson. If i had a Fender i think i would would actually get somethings done around here

DrumAndDestroy · Post by **DrumAndDestroy** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 5:01 pm

Flaw wrote:
Colton wrote:Do you know what really bugs me as a guitar player? Having to do shit other than play guitar.
I know man! I hate putting down my Gibson. If i had a Fender i think i would would actually get somethings done around here

yeah you could use that time to take guitar lessons to actually play that gibson half decently. oooooohhh!!

onegunguitar · Post by **onegunguitar** » Wed Mar 03, 2010 7:22 pm

DrumAndDestroy wrote:
Flaw wrote:
Colton wrote:Do you know what really bugs me as a guitar player? Having to do shit other than play guitar.
I know man! I hate putting down my Gibson. If i had a Fender i think i would would actually get somethings done around here
yeah you could use that time to take guitar lessons to actually play that gibson half decently. oooooohhh!!

Haha,I wasn't gonna say anything-I figured you'd chime in Justin,lol!