Six strings down. SRV

felix'apprentice · Post by **felix'apprentice** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 8:35 pm

Alright - my hero is SRV, i was browsing through you tube and found this video of Jimmy Vaughan he kinda talks about his brothers death and then goes into the song written for Stevie.

this video gave me freakin chills. i really wish he were still alive, and i wish i would have discovered his music a long time ago.

check this out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RAYNKBKC ... re=related

so whaddya think?

- kayla.

RiversFox · Post by **RiversFox** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:37 pm

What do I think?

I think its a dang shame Stevie and Jimi died so young.
Throw a set of .13 gauge strings on your guitar... really get an even better appreciation for that guy.
When you watch Stevie play it looks like he had .09 on...
He knew the blues and could play like no other...
To me, he is the best guitarist ever.
If I had to describe him in four words...
Pure Emotion / Raw Talent

The main thing though that bugs me about Stevie's death is then we had to listen to Jimmy play guitar...ugh

Colton · Post by **Colton** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 9:42 pm

RiversFox wrote:The main thing though that bugs me about Stevie's death is then we had to listen to Jimmy play guitar...ugh

Nuh-uh. We gots some Bonamassa!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDAQm2qWnYw

nakedtwister · Post by **nakedtwister** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:29 pm

Colton wrote:
RiversFox wrote:The main thing though that bugs me about Stevie's death is then we had to listen to Jimmy play guitar...ugh
Nuh-uh. We gots some Bonamassa!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kDAQm2qWnYw

He da shit!!

RiversFox · Post by **RiversFox** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:45 pm

haha that was a joke about Jimmy Vaughan's ability.

But I never heard of that Joe guy.... WOW!

Thank you for sharing!

Very impressive. Will def. give this guy a listen.

Thank you again!

Colton · Post by **Colton** » Wed Sep 15, 2010 11:39 pm

Check out Sloe Gin, The River, Walkin Blues, and Burning Hell as well =)

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:58 am

You will never find a guitar player like SRV again. Many people can play him, but no one can play like him.

RiversFox · Post by **RiversFox** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 2:16 am

Boy did I get pissed when few years back Guitar ONE and all the mags where saying "John Mayer is the new SRV" - really urked me...but it only last for like two years.

Guitar wise- I think Johnny Lang or Kenny Wayne Sheperd are better to listen to blues wise...even Trucks but he plays a lot of slide.

Musically John Mayer is talented but his guitar playing really confuses me. Maybe because he had all this hype. But I own three of his live DVDs... he's not very bluesy... it sounds odd to me.
Let me just say I like John Mayer. John Mayer (period)

But not John Mayer as the next blues God or anything related to blues.

Buddy Guy is fun to watch live.

So, yes, Frank I agree, many can play him but not play like him.
Well stated.

Colton · Post by **Colton** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 5:31 am

Speaking of JoeB, can someone tab out the section from about 4:30 to 4:45 in that video I posted above? Great! Thanks =)

felix'apprentice · Post by **felix'apprentice** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 12:13 pm

f.sciarrillo wrote:You will never find a guitar player like SRV again. Many people can play him, but no one can play like him.

totally agree.

the john mayer thing - no way is what they hyped him to be. don't get me wrong, he's very good, but he's not a blues guitarist. he has his own style and i do like his stuff.

i really like KWS, he is an amazing guitar player. joe b is pretty freakin awesome too, i saw a video of him with a young guitar player Talan Noble Latz (i believe he's 12 now) this kid has got some mad skills and the kid loves the blues

SRV will always be the greatest. theres no doubt about it, he changed what people thought of the blues genre. its a damn shame he died so early. his passion when he played is amazing, and often has brought me to tears (not even gonna lie).

- kayla.

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 3:22 pm

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Hmm...interesting discussion question: Is whether a guitarist defined as a "blues guitarist" contingent upon the guitarist's approach to playing or the genre in which the guitarist is playing or the form in which he or she playing in?

I generally consider players who primarily play pentatonic-based stuff to be blues guitarists or at least "blues-based guitarists," as opposed to players who are much more modal in their playing. In that regard, I consider Chuck Berry, Slash, Jimmy Page, Angus Young, and Bonnie Riatt to all be blues guitarists, even if they aren't always playing over the traditional 12 bar, I-IV-V progression.

With that said, I'd say that John Mayer's solo stuff isn't real bluesy, but there's definitely a lot of blues-based playing in his John Mayer Trio stuff.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qla13aWr ... re=related

On the other hand, there are players like Robben Ford and Eric Johnson who use both pentatonic and modal playing to great effect.

I wouldn't call either a pure blues player, but there is definitely a blues underpinning to their playing.

But at the end of the day, does it really matter if a player fits into some sort of simple box for us? Stevie and John are both great players, and if people compare them to each other, so be it. With that said, I have an Austim City Limits John Mayer performance recorded off of PBS. He does a cover of Empty Arms and just kills it. It's one of the best SRV covers I've ever heard, and I've heard quite a few.

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f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 7:27 pm

Have I told anyone that the blues scale my favorite scale?

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:01 pm

f.sciarrillo wrote:Have I told anyone that the blues scale my favorite scale?

Don't get me started on my "the blues scale is not a real 'scale' because the 5b degree cannot be harmonized with a relative 3rd" rant.

felix'apprentice · Post by **felix'apprentice** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:05 pm

theres a blues scale?

Colton · Post by **Colton** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 8:09 pm

and.... blues can be played major, it can be played minor, hell, theres old blues songs that are one E chord with a little d,d#,e riff in it, and thats it. Then theres songs that are 1/4/5, all minor scale, but are played with a different beat or strum pattern and you have funk. Funk isnt blues, even if it has the same damn notes. I hear alot of people tell me 'check out this great blues song', they play it, and its someone playing minors, bitching and complaining, but its not even close to blues. Blues isnt always sad either, theres some happy blues, theres worried blues, theres 'im gonna knock your teeth out blues', theres all kinds of blues. I dont think its the form that makes it, i dont think its the scale that makes it, its not the lyrics. Its either blue or its not.

I dont fucking know. But I do.

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Thu Sep 16, 2010 9:52 pm

felix'apprentice wrote:theres a blues scale?

Yes, it is used in depth by Eddie Van Halen and David Gilmour, as well as a couple of other great players

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blues_scale

RiversFox · Post by **RiversFox** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:08 am

bassist _ 25.

Well stated. The blues scale vs. the modal.

After thinking about what you said I probably have heard so many "blues scales" that when I hear something other than that... I say..Nope. Not blues.

Excellent point about Mayer. He is very sophisticated in his playing. Thus, to my ears, not bluesy. Mind you he does bluesy stuff like you said, but plays a variety of scales.
For my own music critique you have shed light on a great point.

My brain was trained and is partial to tradition blues.

Speaking of Eric Johnson, I first saw him on Claptons Crossroads DVD, he performed Desert Rose...
Case in point... I said...he is not a blues player!
But he is a wicked guitar player!

Isn't it just grand when someone else sheds light into your world...

Slothkill · Post by **Slothkill** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 5:22 am

I think the one thing most people lose sight of is the fact that S.R.V. could sing as well as play. Let your voice do the walking and your heart and fingers do the talking. Not to take away from Mayer Or Gilmour. Think about it some of our fav. players sang and played...... B.B. King, Eric Clapton, Hendrix, etc...............

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:28 pm

Slothkill wrote:I think the one thing most people lose sight of is the fact that S.R.V. could sing as well as play. Let your voice do the walking and your heart and fingers do the talking. Not to take away from Mayer Or Gilmour. Think about it some of our fav. players sang and played...... B.B. King, Eric Clapton, Hendrix, etc...............

Great point, I agree 100% ...

felix'apprentice · Post by **felix'apprentice** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:37 pm

f.sciarrillo wrote:
felix'apprentice wrote:theres a blues scale?
Yes, it is used in depth by Eddie Van Halen and David Gilmour, as well as a couple of other great players

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blues_scale

i musta forgot to use my sarcasm font.

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Fri Sep 17, 2010 2:42 pm

felix'apprentice wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:
felix'apprentice wrote:theres a blues scale?
Yes, it is used in depth by Eddie Van Halen and David Gilmour, as well as a couple of other great players

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blues_scale
i musta forgot to use my sarcasm font.

I wasn't sure if you were or not