Olbermann fans

[Hawk]

Look at this: MSBC is available to 78 million households and and they only are watched in 12% of the market. That is bad, real bad ..

I guess facts are not as entertaining as lies.

Ratings are all about entertainment, facts can be boring.

You seem to know so much about MSNBC. Will you tell me how much time you watch MSNBC each day ? Or do you just listen to people like Linbaugh who tell us (yes us, I listen to Limbaugh) about MSNBC ?

The FACT that I ask you quest6ions that you do not have the ability to answer or the fact that you have complained about Obama's tax raises (and I can go on and on and on) shows how uninformed your are.

If I ask you your opinion on fraking do you have one ? Do you know what it is ? Or have you never heard of it ? Can you discuss it without looking it up ?

I hate to keep bringing it up (well, not really) how you had NO CLUE that there was a 10 trillion $ deficit when Bush left office. That should show you that Fox and Limbaugh and the rest kept you uninformed on purpose. You should at least ask yourself why they hid that from you. And what else they are keeping from you ?

Ask yourself why the Republicans, Conservatives and the Chamber of Commerce are against removing tax breaks from ALL of the companies who outsource jobs ? I've yet to hear you comment on that ? Why ?

This is what gets me laughing. Your constant reference to wanting to slap a big fat kiss on Obama, as though we might be in love with him. Obviously we don't think about people who support our view like you do about people who support yours. Do you actually have wet dreams about Glen Beck ? If you don't, I know you want to.

[joltinjeff]

When he was doing Sunday night football, i didnt watch it. I just dont care for him....he started getting to biased for ESPN, which God knows is not a biased network at all.
However, between him and his on-and-off lesbian lover Muddow, they are the two biggest pains in the ass there are.

I gotta admit that I do not care for Sean Hannity or Glen Beck....way too out there flappin for me...

I just do not watch news channels anymore...

[songsmith]

Saying that Fox News is "a little biased towards the repubs" is like saying the ocean is "a little wet." Simply having Dems on the panels is not necessarily an indication of objectivity... Hannity has picked softball Dems from the beginning... Colmes was picked specifically by Spinnity because he didn't talk over him. Also, really WATCH Hannity... if someone starts making a point he can't allow, he gets LOUD and bullies the person into submission. That doesn't mean he's right. It means he's a dick.
People, Fox News' ratings aren't because they're better, or "righter"--It's because the fringers NEED constant re-validation of their biases, or else they move on to other stupidity. They NEED propaganda, just like not going to church every Sunday generally results in a cooling of one's religious zeal. They tend to be passionate about whatever they're told to be passionate about by their favorite media personalities.
Case in point: the "Ground Zero Mosque."
Just a few months ago, the rightwingers decided that a new Muslim daycenter in NYC would be a good wedge issue to polarize the base around. Make it sound like Al Qaeda was going to be right there training terrorists and flipping-off good Christians from every window. Some douche-bag exremist-pastor even decided to bait the Muslim extremists into starting WWIII by promising to burn Korans. Remember? It was only 2 months ago.
Anyway, a week after bringing the world to the brink of Armageddon/Global Jihad, nobody was saying an effing word about any of it. It never happened. We moved on to other wedge issues, like ending Social Security and public education. Oh, there was a little blip, when O'Really got the finger on The View, but, basically, it's a dead issue.
The point is, without Fox News and the Rush-controlled media, the Tea Party would not exist. Princess Palin would be a laughingstock to all of us, not just 60%. Saddam would be just another Kim Jong-Il, a dum-dum stuck in his own little playpen.
When Fox News garners the kind of ratings that Dancing With The Stars or American Idol gets, then maybe it'll have some effect on anyone other than the tinfoil-hat crowd.
MSNBC absolutely SHOULD be Fox News for the left. They MUST. If there's a right wing there HAS to be a left wing, or the eagle never gets off the ground, it just flops around in circles.--->JMS

[Banned]

The point is, without Fox News and the Rush-controlled media, the Tea Party would not exist.


MSNBC absolutely SHOULD be Fox News for the left.

To the first point, the Tea Party started all by itself and Fox news co opted it and made sure it became part of the Republican Party. That was a terrible thing to watch. Many will say that it started with the Ron Paul run for presidency in 2006 and 2007. A big fund-raising event on the internet for Ron coincided with an anniversary day of the Boston Tea Party, and that was the first use of the name Tea Party. It is disgusting to see Fox and the Republican party take over the name Tea Party, especially how they treated Ron Paul with such disdain during the campaign in 2007.

To the second part, the left does not and never did need MSNBC. It already had NBC, ABC, CBS, CNN and PBS.

[PStl]

People, Fox News' ratings aren't because they're better, or "righter"--It's because the fringers NEED constant re-validation of their biases, or else they move on to other stupidity.

I'll be sure to let my mom know that she is a dumb, propaganda-loving, zombie who's living on the fringe of society.

The point is, without Fox News and the Rush-controlled media, the Tea Party would not exist. Princess Palin would be a laughingstock to all of us, not just 60%.

I don't remember Rush promoting the Tea party. In fact, he was against it! He used to quote Reagan, "a 3rd party would be the death of theRepublican Party", and "what we need is a more conservative Republican Party". It wasn't until recently that Rush has embraced the Tea Partiers.
I've got to wonder though, if the majority of people watching cable news favor 1 particular network, exactly who is on the fringe? LOL
Also, let's not confuse the actual "Tea Party" Party, and "Tea Partiers".

[f.sciarrillo]

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[PStl]

What I don't get is: If 1 network is dominating all others, why wouldn't another network copycat the model and steal viewers?

[f.sciarrillo]

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[bassist_25]

What I don't get is: If 1 network is dominating all others, why wouldn't another network copycat the model and steal viewers?

I'm not sure if you're asking that rhetorically or literally. If the former, I'd posit that it may be perhaps because networks exist in an oligopoly that thrives on product differentiation rather than product homogeneity; creating a homogenous product could steal some viewers but it may not, all things equal, allow for a domination of market share (in this case, market share means those who buy advertisement - garnering viewship is just an operations process to attract advertisement), since people can go to any source for the same information. I don't know if that's really why, but it's something to think about.

[f.sciarrillo]

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[Hawk]

Look at this: MSBC is available to 78 million households and and they only are watched in 12% of the market. That is bad, real bad ..

I guess facts are not as entertaining as lies.

Ratings are all about entertainment, facts can be boring.

You seem to know so much about MSNBC. Will you tell me how much time you watch MSNBC each day ? Or do you just listen to people like Linbaugh who tell us (yes us, I listen to Limbaugh) about MSNBC ?

The FACT that I ask you quest6ions that you do not have the ability to answer or the fact that you have complained about Obama's tax raises (and I can go on and on and on) shows how uninformed your are.

If I ask you your opinion on fraking do you have one ? Do you know what it is ? Or have you never heard of it ? Can you discuss it without looking it up ?

I hate to keep bringing it up (well, not really) how you had NO CLUE that there was a 10 trillion $ deficit when Bush left office. That should show you that Fox and Limbaugh and the rest kept you uninformed on purpose. You should at least ask yourself why they hid that from you. And what else they are keeping from you ?

Ask yourself why the Republicans, Conservatives and the Chamber of Commerce are against removing tax breaks from ALL of the companies who outsource jobs ? I've yet to hear you comment on that ? Why ?

This is what gets me laughing. Your constant reference to wanting to slap a big fat kiss on Obama, as though we might be in love with him. Obviously we don't think about people who support our view like you do about people who support yours. Do you actually have wet dreams about Glen Beck ? If you don't, I know you want to.

I flip back anf forth throughout the day. I refuse to watch a full Maddow, Olbermanna or Matthews show because they are 99% FOX is bad and 1% whining about repubs, and how stupid they feel anyone who agrees with them are.

As for the the rest of your rant, what does me saying about MSNBC being bias towards the left have to do with any of that? I already said that Fox is bias towards the right as well, and it seems like MSNBC is trying to be the Fox for the left. The only difference is that people on MSNBC are immature 15 year old punks who think they know everything, and are bigots towards anyone who doesn't agree with them.

Also, I don't watch Beck and I don't listen to Limbaugh, they don't have Rush around here. If they had him around here, I probably would listen to him. I like Rush; always have and always will

I should have known that saying something negative about MSNBC would set you off because the fact is that the people on that network, along with the rest of the liberals, are in love with Obama, plain and simple.

There is nothing else to rant about it. You claim Fox is bias towards the right and I say MSNBC is bias towards the left, we are both right ..

And yet you FAIL to answer any questions. Total lack of insight is proof that you get little truth on Fox or any of your news sources. And yet you continue to be fooled by them. You actually choose to be fooled by them.

When you look at yourself in the Mirror and ask yourself, "Why was it okay with Fox and the rest of the right wing media, that Bush took a 5 TRILLION deficit and made it 6TRILLION without a bleep. Why Did it go up to 7 TRILLION and no blip. Why did it go to 8 Trillion under Bush and get NO MENTION from ANY of your sources. Then 9 TRILLION. Then it goes to 10 TRILLION and no one on the right even mentions it.

But when a Democrat becomes President all of a sudden it's a great SIN to increase the deficit. Harped on non stop. "

What does the person looking back say to you ? The reflection should say, "...." Fill in the damn blank yourself.

[f.sciarrillo]

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[tornandfrayed]

What is socialism and where do we stop?

Are the public schools socialist? what about the city and state police? County hospitals? Libraries?

I just don't get what everyone is so afraid of. I run my own business have for years but I still believe that we need public schools (even though I will not send my kids there).

So do we eliminate everything that is run by the gov or where do we say its OK and who gets to decide?

Just curious.

[songsmith]

What is socialism and where do we stop?

Are the public schools socialist? what about the city and state police? County hospitals? Libraries?
So do we eliminate everything that is run by the gov or where do we say its OK and who gets to decide?

Just curious.

Yes. All of it has to go. At least until they get a conservative stranglehold again, then they'll give it all back, and be heroes. It's called, "Double Santa Claus," and it's what they do.--->JMS

[songsmith]

People, Fox News' ratings aren't because they're better, or "righter"--It's because the fringers NEED constant re-validation of their biases, or else they move on to other stupidity.

I'll be sure to let my mom know that she is a dumb, propaganda-loving, zombie who's living on the fringe of society.

The point is, without Fox News and the Rush-controlled media, the Tea Party would not exist. Princess Palin would be a laughingstock to all of us, not just 60%.

I don't remember Rush promoting the Tea party. In fact, he was against it! He used to quote Reagan, "a 3rd party would be the death of theRepublican Party", and "what we need is a more conservative Republican Party". It wasn't until recently that Rush has embraced the Tea Partiers.
I've got to wonder though, if the majority of people watching cable news favor 1 particular network, exactly who is on the fringe? LOL
Also, let's not confuse the actual "Tea Party" Party, and "Tea Partiers".

I stand by my statement. The rightwing media consists of : pointing out something to be afraid of, offering a "solution" that involves making the listener part of that solution, a call to arms, and congratulating one another for being so doggone smart. It's all so validating... and makes the listener feel like he has the high moral ground. To me, it's incredibly patronizing and corny. Nationalism has nothing to do with morality, lots of evil has been perpetrated in the name of nationalism.
And while Rush did, indeed, once claim there was no need for a Tea Party (I heard him say it in no uncertain terms in April '09) he now uses the word, "us" when he refers to the Tea Party. As an aside, this week, he actually included himself in the working-class. Like we all live in 20,000 sq. ft. mansions on golf courses, and have our own Learjets. In his whole life, he's never been working-class, no matter how he tries to spin it.--->JMS

[joltinjeff]

I have sat back and read almost all of these posts....some of you are way just to windy for me to sit and read through a lot of the BS....

Speaking of which....BS that is, this is what I have come to realize.

1. NO ONE is going to be happy with which ever party is in control of the country (President, Congress).
The French have a quote, "The Americans must elect God as their president every four years."
And in all actuality, that is a true statement...again, no one is ever happy and whoever is in office cannot get things done the way they had hope....congressional opposition, etc.

2. The media (which i am a part of), but television media mainly has taken over every aspect....they basically tell us how to vote, look, smell, eat, who should be the top school in college football, who wins the heisman trophy, how bad this party is or how liberal this party is. To mean, the media has become in some ways a branch of the government.

3. Whether you chose to listen to Rush, watch MSNBC or Fox, CNN or any other news broadcasts THAT IS YOUR CHOICE!!!! I just think that if a person in the media, especially the national spotlight, you should stay out of someone's "pocket"....im sure if you look at Glenn Beck's contributions ..... i am sure he threw some money out there....they all do it...Olberman's ego just got the best of him....

This could not have happened to a nicer idiot.....

[tornandfrayed]

He's back on tonight.. Curious to see what he has to say. I don't usually watch this kind of shit but tonight I might make an exception..

Was watching FOX this morning and they were complaining about the Government not being able to keep Americans safe while they are on airplanes... Sounded like Socialist bullshit to me..

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[tornandfrayed]

Spoken like Christ himself Frank! You make your congregation proud with that kind of mentality!