Rock Page Political Adversaries : Friends or Foes ?

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 5:12 pm

OR........Let's have a beer !

How many of you take these political threads / posts personally ?

Just for the record, I hold nothing personal towards anyone in any of my political rants. A couple of the guys that see things differently than I do are friends of mine.

lonewolf knows what happens in the threads is not personal and Robthedrummer and I are very good friends. We even joke about our different political views.

While I take my politics seriously, I could sit down and have a drink with anyone who is arguing with me. [Although we might discuss something other than politics]

And I hold no grudge if you think my views are asinine. (they're not)

Musicians have often taken political sides, so I don't think there is anything wrong with posting one's views on a music site. I haven't read the "pet peeve" thread, but I'm guessing "politics on Rock Page" is someone's pet peeve.

So do you take it personally, or find it a way to express your views and nothing more than that ?

bfoust · Post by **bfoust** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 6:47 pm

I try not to get involved but I can't help myself and have to post my views. I don't get upset over it because I realize I'll probably not meet 90% of the people on here. I don't go out much.

However, I did meet Rob and I know Hawk and they're cool people and everyone is allowed to express one's opinion, which is why this country is great.

Have a nice weekend!

mjb · Post by **mjb** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 7:36 pm

i don't get involved much with the political stuff on here. simply because i dont really care to argue cuz i am ignorant on alot of issues. ther was a time when i was really into politics and would have been right in there mixing it up with the hawks and the robs and the whoevers, but what i found was i always seemed to be pissed off about something

and i ended up just kind of backing away from it a bit and find myself not being so fucked off all the time, plus i have a buddy that is just nuts about that shit and he'll take any and i do mean any conversation and try to turn it into a political conversation and then want to argue and be all up in your face about it. very, very annoying. i just don't follow closely enough to feel i could get a foot hold in any conversation. although you all are alot of fun to watch

at this point in my life i have to save all my pissedoffness for head-butts from my daughter(ouch) and tripping over toys and such

i vote and kinda try to keep up with whats goig on best i can but i'm not going to be jumpin into any arguements any time soon. i'll leave that up to you guys

peace

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:24 pm

The only thing sadder than a clueless fuck politician saying that they can solve any problem more complex than getting elected is the unfortunate citizen who believes them.

Anonymous...2007

DirtySanchez · Post by **DirtySanchez** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 8:42 pm

Nothing on the Intertnet is serious. (except porn)
But, our President is a retard and if you don't think so, piss off. hehe.

dburley81 · Post by **dburley81** » Sat Jan 06, 2007 11:46 pm

it would be real easy to get pissed on here but in reality the guy on the other end raveing could be laughing and smiling while i or you is red in the face. Yes at first sometimes i think everyone reads into posts personally but i would hope it was left on here and never transitioned off rockpage.net

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:04 am

DirtySanchez wrote:Nothing on the Intertnet is serious. (except porn)
But, our President is a retard and if you don't think so, piss off. hehe.

HAHA, so far, this one gets my vote for post of the year!

Anyways, we all have our different views, but that's why this country is great. Some places will cut out your tongue if you speak negatively towards others. Be thankful for that. I consider Bill to be an inspiration and a great friend, I like tormenting him now and then. I can be an asshole sometimes, (normally not with the politcal stuff) but I do try to not get personal against anyone. I like to throw out my veiws and see how they are rebutted. All in good fun!

DirtySanchez · Post by **DirtySanchez** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:05 am

It's fun, that's all.
I've personally met and gotten along with many people who frequent this site. I just love messin with people, most times.

Merge · Post by **Merge** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 12:26 am

I'm new here and I only know 1 other person on this forum, but I don't take anything that is said personally. I'm all for debating current issues, that's why I started posting.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:00 am

RobTheDrummer wrote:
DirtySanchez wrote:Nothing on the Intertnet is serious. (except porn)
But, our President is a retard and if you don't think so, piss off. hehe.
HAHA, so far, this one gets my vote for post of the year!

Anyways, we all have our different views, but that's why this country is great. Some places will cut out your tongue if you speak negatively towards others. Be thankful for that. I consider Bill to be an inspiration and a great friend, I like tormenting him now and then. I can be an asshole sometimes, (normally not with the politcal stuff) but I do try to not get personal against anyone. I like to throw out my veiws and see how they are rebutted. All in good fun!

Yeah, Rob knows how to push my buttons, but that's cool. Bfoust and I don't always agree either, but we're good friends. Just some very cool people here on RP.

Fun and educational !

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 1:15 am

lonewolf wrote:The only thing sadder than a clueless fuck politician saying that they can solve any problem more complex than getting elected is the unfortunate citizen who believes them.

Anonymous...2007

Amen. We need our country back from our politicians and government.

AtoMikEnRtiA · Post by **AtoMikEnRtiA** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:34 am

undercoverjoe wrote:
lonewolf wrote:The only thing sadder than a clueless fuck politician saying that they can solve any problem more complex than getting elected is the unfortunate citizen who believes them.

Anonymous...2007
Amen. We need our country back from our politicians and government.

Yeah but at the end of the day -- who we gonna give this country too? As much as I hate the politicians.. I sure as hell don't want Scooby Doo or Jeff Probst running things around here..

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 4:53 am

If we give this country to the democrats, it's gonna go socialist. Oh well, I guess being a Canada wannabe isn't that bad.

grimmbass · Post by **grimmbass** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:16 am

The sky is still blue....

Post by **Ron** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 11:02 am

grimmbass wrote:The sky is still blue....

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 5:26 pm

I've mentioned before that I like my Rockpage political foils. UCJoe and I hang out occasionally, I met RobDrummer in Vegas last year to hang out, and Lonewolf's one of the smartest guys you ever met.
The kicker: When I hang with these guys, we NEVER discuss politics. Cool, huh! We're music lovers ans musicians, and we're so enthusiastic about that stuff that we don't have time to talk politics.
Great post, and great point to be made.----->JMS

lonewolf · Post by **lonewolf** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 7:33 pm

AtoMikEnRtiA wrote:
undercoverjoe wrote:
lonewolf wrote:The only thing sadder than a clueless fuck politician saying that they can solve any problem more complex than getting elected is the unfortunate citizen who believes them.

Anonymous...2007
Amen. We need our country back from our politicians and government.
Yeah but at the end of the day -- who we gonna give this country too? As much as I hate the politicians.. I sure as hell don't want Scooby Doo or Jeff Probst running things around here..

Well, here's the latest caretakers that "we" selected. BTW, who is Jeff Probst?

(allow the commercial to play 1st)

http://cosmos.bcst.yahoo.com/scp_v3/vie ... 9&src=news

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:07 pm

lonewolf.......nothing came up for me. Ha.......perhaps that was the point you were making ? LOL

Songsmith........good post.

Let's keep this thread in the spirit with which it was started.

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Sun Jan 07, 2007 8:12 pm

I do not agree politically much with Yankee Rose, Songsmith, Kent, Grimm 1, and many others, but they are all pretty cool people.

I wish I could change their thinking on politics, but probably won't, but we all support live local music, and that is the cement of this whole forum.

YankeeRose · Post by **YankeeRose** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 2:19 am

Yup, what UndercoverJoe said - we don't agree with him, but we're all pretty cool people.

Hey Joe, next time I see you it's your turn to give me a shoulder massage, isn't it???

...and of course, the rest, we all support live, local Music!!!

BDR · Post by **BDR** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:25 pm

I hate all of you ... especially RobTheDrummer ...

Agree with me or suck it ... those are the options ...

(Note: Please see lonewolf's sig line and apply it to this post.)

r:>)

Post by **Jim Price** » Mon Jan 08, 2007 5:47 pm

There was a point a few years ago, surrounding the last Presidential election, when I became irritated with all the political sparring on Rockpage. I joined a chorus of folks wanting to see separate forums for political arguments, or the elimination of political threads altogether. But then, one evening during a show, a prominent local musician sat down and explained to me that as a musician, he valued the political threads on Rockpage as an opportunity to see how his fellow musicians felt about the issues of the day. It opened my eyes, and I slid off the anti-political thread bandwagon.

I usually won't post on political threads myself, because I don't know or understand everything going on in our complex government, society or world, and I don't have the answers. But I respect the rights of Rockpagers to air their passions and viewpoints, and debate the issues. And as long as there's mutual respect among the participants and it doesn't descend into viciousness, threats and namecalling, I have no problems with folks discussing the issues here. This is a community, and ultimately everybody gets to know everyone else a little bit better through these discussions.

Now those damn teflon threads, that's another story...

nakedtwister · Post by **nakedtwister** » Tue Jan 09, 2007 11:57 pm

I think we should start our own political party devoted to Musicology. Since music is the universal language it should work out for the better part of us. Lets have a Rockpage election to vote our nominees like Ron for President, Lonewolf for Sec. of Defense, etc....

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 12:41 am

nakedtwister wrote:I think we should start our own political party devoted to Musicology. Since music is the universal language it should work out for the better part of us. Lets have a Rockpage election to vote our nominees like Ron for President, Lonewolf for Sec. of Defense, etc....

JP as Sect. of State

Hurricane for CIA Director

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Wed Jan 10, 2007 3:35 am

lonewolf : Parliamentarian

Although I think he already holds this position. Let's make it official !