help....

felix'apprentice · Post by **felix'apprentice** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:58 pm

ya, i put new strings on it as soon as i got it. it needs new ones again though, i need to adjust the action some though. then im gonna the new parts for it. it could be the amp to ... hmmm..

MeYatch · Post by **MeYatch** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 5:59 pm

you're going to have to take the strings off to change the pickups, good time to change the strings and give it a setup.

what kind of amp do you have?

moxham123 · Post by **moxham123** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 6:46 pm

bassist_25 wrote:
Next, keep in mind that bass is not just a guitar with four bigger strings. It is a different instrument with a different approach. Many guitar players make the switch, but they just end up sounding like guitar players playing bass. Also, if you decide to be a pizzicato player, then you'll have to develop your touch, which is something that many guitarists making the switch lack. I suggest spending a great deal of time both watching and listening to bass players to learn how they approach their instrument and the thing that seperates true bass players from guitar players just mucking around: The Pocket. I'm not slamming guitar players who wish to play bass here - Paul McCartney, a former guitarist, is one of my favorite cats on four strings - but I'm just saying that many don't successfully make the transistion for the reasons I stated above.

Some very good sage advice and thoughts listed here. Bass is a similar, yet different, animal than guitar. As mentioned here, go watch as many bass players live as you can and ask them questions. Most of us bass players love sharing how we approach bass. Feel, timing, groove, the pocket, learning to play as tight with the drummer as possible, attack, and all the other things that go along with learning bass take time and practice like anything else.

slackin@dabass · Post by **slackin@dabass** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 8:40 pm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5XeVLJeMdE

how can you guys forget les claypool?

the bass is allllll about groove... rhythm. if you got rhythm, bass is no big thing. but just remember... most people that love led zeppelin have no idea who john paul jones is!

felix'apprentice · Post by **felix'apprentice** » Thu Jan 29, 2009 9:39 pm

this amp i got is OLLLDDDD. honestly, i dont even know what it is. its big, ugly, and yellow.....i think that could be part of the problem. im gonna have to get a new amp anyways, so i might as well just fork out the cash and get one.

rhythm eh?

DirtySanchez · Post by **DirtySanchez** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 2:03 pm

slackin@dabass wrote:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y5XeVLJeMdE

how can you guys forget les claypool?

the bass is allllll about groove... rhythm. if you got rhythm, bass is no big thing. but just remember... most people that love led zeppelin have no idea who john paul jones is!

I don't think people like Claypool much here. I remember a bunch of people saying he was overrated. I think he's awesome. My fave bassist though, is Matt Freeman from Rancid. I like Flea a bunch too, even though I don't care for much new RHCP stuff.

JackANSI · Post by **JackANSI** » Fri Jan 30, 2009 4:24 pm

DirtySanchez wrote:I don't think people like Claypool much here. I remember a bunch of people saying he was overrated. I think he's awesome. My fave bassist though, is Matt Freeman from Rancid. I like Flea a bunch too, even though I don't care for much new RHCP stuff.

I didn't forget about Claypool.. He is just a 'given'

Anyone who thinks Claypool is overrated, is underrating him. He's better than most people think. (and he uses a 4-string MOST of the time (>80%)).

Matt Freeman is the shiz too.

VENTGtr · Post by **VENTGtr** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 4:42 pm

felix'apprentice wrote:this amp i got is OLLLDDDD. honestly, i dont even know what it is. its big, ugly, and yellow.....
rhythm eh?

Yellow as in tweed? 'Cause you might have something great there.

Oh yeah...bass players...Why doth Bruce Gordon get no love?!?!?!
REALLY, and I'm a huge Ged fan...but Gordon...daaaaannnngggg...

Disclaimer: BDPaul

felix'apprentice · Post by **felix'apprentice** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 5:16 pm

yes, it is definitely yellow tweed. there is no manufacturer information on the thing, i know its older than 1976 because it was my grandmothers and she died in 1976 .... its got three inputs (bass, rhythm, guitar) and two knobs - tone and volume on it. but its ugly as sin. lol.

its almost identical to this - cept i know its not a fender amp.

http://www.musix.ch/im/img80199-68045.jpg

- k a Y l a

MeYatch · Post by **MeYatch** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:23 pm

you could have an awesome amp, but maybe not.

if it is based on the old bassman amps of the 50s it probably sounds great, but will not cut it in a gig situation.

slackin@dabass · Post by **slackin@dabass** » Sat Jan 31, 2009 7:46 pm

MeYatch wrote:you could have an awesome amp, but maybe not.

if it is based on the old bassman amps of the 50s it probably sounds great, but will not cut it in a gig situation.

unless you have a d.i. wich i doubt on something that old. as long as you have p.a. support and a soundman that will mic that badboy, you could have something great. but in this area, i'm pretty sure they'll put you through a d.i. box before the amp anyway, so it'd be pointless. i talked myself in a circle... go me!

VENTGtr · Post by **VENTGtr** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 3:35 pm

MeYatch wrote: if it is based on the old bassman amps of the 50s it probably sounds great,.

Things are incredible guitar amps. But, could be an old Gibson, which
may be prety awesome as well...or a lot of other things. Love the
tweed look though.

MeYatch wrote:but will not cut it in a gig situation.

Won't speak from a bass standpoint, but as a guitar amp, these things
can be UNBELIEVABLY loud. Sold mine many years ago (Was raising
money for a down payment on first house) because it was too loud
at the volume where it started getting "that" sound. Wish still had the
thing.

Oh, but, ya, you could just run a DI box and have your bass come through
the mons. Few years ago seemed like a lot of bass players were going
this route. Also, lot of floor multieffects units out that would give you
more, options, flexibility, etc. If you wanted, could get a little powered
monitor to run along with it so you had stage volume.

slackin@dabass · Post by **slackin@dabass** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:21 pm

VENTGtr wrote:
MeYatch wrote: if it is based on the old bassman amps of the 50s it probably sounds great,.
Things are incredible guitar amps. But, could be an old Gibson, which
may be prety awesome as well...or a lot of other things. Love the
tweed look though.

MeYatch wrote:but will not cut it in a gig situation.
Won't speak from a bass standpoint, but as a guitar amp, these things
can be UNBELIEVABLY loud. Sold mine many years ago (Was raising
money for a down payment on first house) because it was too loud
at the volume where it started getting "that" sound. Wish still had the
thing.

Oh, but, ya, you could just run a DI box and have your bass come through
the mons. Few years ago seemed like a lot of bass players were going
this route. Also, lot of floor multieffects units out that would give you
more, options, flexibility, etc. If you wanted, could get a little powered
monitor to run along with it so you had stage volume.

yea... not at aldo's or 30 something. Knight sound will pump some bass through the monitors for ya, but it seemed to me like there was no way it could replace a good amp for behind you. last time we played at 30 something, i didn't take an amp, just my pedal board with a tech21 sansamp on it and zilly said that running that much bass is hard on his monitors, not to mention that when i have my little 100 watt combo, i can hear myself better than i did that night. aldo's they don't have the juice to push bass through.

it seems all PA systems are just not designed to run that kinda bass... unless you go with in ear monitors... you might as well buy a small Hartke combo for the same price, though. 250 watts in a kickback cab is nice.

just one bass player's opinion... and yes, we all know, bass player opinions don't count for much.

VENTGtr · Post by **VENTGtr** » Sun Feb 01, 2009 7:53 pm

Rob actually runs a separate little powered monitor and points it towards Jas.

His cab, a DI box that goes to the snake, then this little mon.

Those little Bass Cubes seem to work pretty well and aren't too pricey.

felix'apprentice · Post by **felix'apprentice** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:14 pm

last thursday made my decision - im a guitar player, not a bass player.

period - end of story lol.

- kayla

mjb · Post by **mjb** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:28 pm

felix'apprentice wrote:last thursday made my decision - im a guitar player, not a bass player.

period - end of story lol.

- kayla

good for you!

can you post a pic of grannys yellow amp by any chance?

felix'apprentice · Post by **felix'apprentice** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:32 pm

i can post something, i just dont know how to post it on here. i will take some pics tonight.

mjb · Post by **mjb** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:39 pm

felix'apprentice wrote:i can post something, i just dont know how to post it on here. i will take some pics tonight.

yeah, me either

lord knows i've tried

felix'apprentice · Post by **felix'apprentice** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 1:53 pm

haha .. ya. my nets too slow at home to even try to post pics

, but i could prob email ya something if you wanted. or maybe post it on my facebook or something from here at work.

lol work ... who does that?

MeYatch · Post by **MeYatch** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:02 pm

get a photobucket account if you don't already have one, you'll use it again, trust me.

Upload the pic, then copy and paste the text labeled IMG code into your rockpage post.

mjb · Post by **mjb** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:09 pm

felix'apprentice wrote:haha .. ya. my nets too slow at home to even try to post pics , but i could prob email ya something if you wanted. or maybe post it on my facebook or something from here at work.

lol work ... who does that?

yeah whatever works for ya. i'm just curious about "old yeller" now. my buddy found an old bandmaster that some retard painted black when actually it was an old blonde bandmaster. when felix saw it he started drooling lol. my buddy maticuously(sp) cleaned off all the black paint and now has a 60S something beautiful blonde bandmaster to die for. you might have something thats worth something, and you might not. never know?????

my email is thehawksbluesband@yahoo.com i just started a facebook acct the other day: Michael J. Borstnar

thanks kayla

felix'apprentice · Post by **felix'apprentice** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:27 pm

ahh i found a pic of it online. mine is a lil more yellow though lol.

http://www.fatdawg.com/2xg29.jpg

i really dont think its worth anything.

but who knows.

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:39 pm

It looks like it says "Kay" on top of it. Kay was one of the department store guitar companies from the 60s. Basically, things like Kays, Harmonies, and Silvertones were considered entry-level instruments, kind of like the Rogues, First Acts, or Samicks of yesteryear. Then things like Fender, Gibson, and Rickenbacker were the pro-level stuff.

There might be someone on here way more knowledgable about these department store brands than I am.

mjb · Post by **mjb** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:42 pm

i'm no amp guru by any stretch, but i'm going to have to go with........it's probobly not worth much. does that say "KAY" on the top?

felix'apprentice · Post by **felix'apprentice** » Tue Feb 03, 2009 2:46 pm

ya its def. a kay. i knew it wouldnt be worth anything. i knew my grandparents were cheap lol. i figured it must have been a kay amp because the guitar was a kay .... i have done research on kay guitars - and i knew they were cheapo guitars so i figured the amp was too. its loud as hell though.