He had 8 years to prove himself. He needs to STFU.f.sciarrillo wrote: And Yes I agree with him. Obama is an idiot .. He didn't say it directly, but between the lines and his gesturing showed it ...
Also, I am not a Republican or a Democrat - I am a Independent Conservative, there is a difference.
What he said ^DirtySanchez wrote:
He had 8 years to prove himself. He needs to STFU.
Hmm .. Well, how about the left quit complaining about him and casting everything on him. I have yet to hear any of them say that it is on their shoulders and they are in charge. All they spout about is how they were left with a mess. Well, this is a mess the was tried to be stopped, but the Liberals blocked it - So who is really to blame for it all ? Hmm - I wonder? Hmm .. Oh, I know; THE LIBERALS !!DirtySanchez wrote:He had 8 years to prove himself. He needs to STFU.f.sciarrillo wrote: And Yes I agree with him. Obama is an idiot .. He didn't say it directly, but between the lines and his gesturing showed it ...
Also, I am not a Republican or a Democrat - I am a Independent Conservative, there is a difference.
I don't think it is so much that he is afraid to confront it. I think he agrees with it .. Look at his past and who he associated with and you will see it ..RobTheDrummer wrote:This whole thing is funny. Bush is basically bashing himself, because there really is no difference between Bush and Obama except that Obama spends more money and is afraid to confront a global threat(N.Korea).....that's about it.
This.DirtySanchez wrote:He had 8 years to prove himself. He needs to STFU.f.sciarrillo wrote: And Yes I agree with him. Obama is an idiot .. He didn't say it directly, but between the lines and his gesturing showed it ...
Also, I am not a Republican or a Democrat - I am a Independent Conservative, there is a difference.
No.f.sciarrillo wrote: Hmm .. Well, how about the left quit complaining about him and casting everything on him. .
9/11 was a buildup from previous administrations. Manufacturing has been going overseas for years, not only under Bush, however he should have done something about it. We were all fooled into going into Iraq, which is a war we are winning/have won for the most part. It's actually a good thing Saddam is gone. Orders for torture? What exactly did they do that was torture? Fuck 'em anyway, they tried to kill innocent lives or US soldiers. Every administration spends waaaay too much. Obama is going to be the US history's biggest spender ever! Bush basically was handed a series of events he had to manage. Didn't do the best job, but really we are worse off now than we were under him. I'm not a big fan of his spending. It's just that the ideology of the far left is just unreal and will unravel this whole country and bankrupt it at the same time.songsmith wrote:No.f.sciarrillo wrote: Hmm .. Well, how about the left quit complaining about him and casting everything on him. .
His administration did it. 9/11 happened on their watch. Manufacturing went overseas during their time. They invaded Iraq. They bungled Katrina. The economy stumbled and fell under their hands. They manipulated the press. They gave the orders for torture. They spent a cool trillion themselves.
So, no. He's still gotten the biggest pass any president has ever gotten, and he was a f**king conservative when you elected him. Barack Obama would have NEVER been elected president had it not been for the failures of the Bush Administration, the sooner the far right realizes that, the sooner they'll get a little power back.
Again, no.--->JMS
You will see a republican get elected in the next round because of the Failures of Jimmy Carter, I mean, BHO ... If you gave me the choice would chose Bush over what we have now any day.songsmith wrote:No.f.sciarrillo wrote: Hmm .. Well, how about the left quit complaining about him and casting everything on him. .
His administration did it. 9/11 happened on their watch. Manufacturing went overseas during their time. They invaded Iraq. They bungled Katrina. The economy stumbled and fell under their hands. They manipulated the press. They gave the orders for torture. They spent a cool trillion themselves.
So, no. He's still gotten the biggest pass any president has ever gotten, and he was a f**king conservative when you elected him. Barack Obama would have NEVER been elected president had it not been for the failures of the Bush Administration, the sooner the far right realizes that, the sooner they'll get a little power back.
Again, no.--->JMS
I hope the spending stops. I want fiscal responsibility. I'm not a right-winger, the republican party turned into a bunch of pussies. All I want is less government control and more freedom to the people. This country was built on hard work, people earned their money and were able to get somewhere. Now it's all about what hand-outs you can get and the government is keeping you down. Less government control! I just don't understand why the government wants to go towards full out socialism, it doesn't work and throwing money at problems doesn't fix them. How many times do we have to go through that? Just imaging if they start regulating your diet because they are paying for your health care. Just around the corner.shredder138 wrote:This is awesome, while the last president was running us into the ground, righties were shouting "America the great will prevail", now six months in same people claiming we're going to hell in a handbasket. Ah, political bickering, enteraining, but nothing more than a waste of time and energy. Carry on folks
I hear what you're saying. It was just an observation of a lot of people having faith in this great country in the last 2 terms, but now have lost it less than a quarter term in. If this is such a great country with the best government, don't you think shit will work it self out?I hope the spending stops. I want fiscal responsibility. I'm not a right-winger, the republican party turned into a bunch of pussies. All I want is less government control and more freedom to the people. This country was built on hard work, people earned their money and were able to get somewhere. Now it's all about what hand-outs you can get and the government is keeping you down. Less government control! I just don't understand why the government wants to go towards full out socialism, it doesn't work and throwing money at problems doesn't fix them. How many times do we have to go through that? Just imaging if they start regulating your diet because they are paying for your health care. Just around the corner.
bassist_25 wrote:I agree with Shredder; these discussions are always pretty funny. People have to follow an ideology. They're right by following it. You're wrong by disagreeing. Labels always help when discriminating and belitteling the outgroup. I actually blame this whole mess on the freegans. Those damn hippies are consuming vast amounts of our garbage, thusly destroying the elephantine solid waste industry that once made this country great. Well, at least that's my pop sociology take on things.
But keep following those ideologies. They'll take us to the promise land. The health care industry hasn't been better. I love spending half my pay check on a bottle of 20 pills. It's awesome that the middle class has been castrated through mass offshoring of manufacurering jobs and now, high-tech gigs that require a graduate-level degree to perform have also moved over seas. That's pretty kick-ass that our sons and daughters get to take glamorous careers at Taco Bell because the American Dream was sold out from under them. As long as I have that sweet gig in middle-management, I'm really having a high standard of living by buying cheaply produced imports from Third World countries. And speaking of a high standard of living, how do you like the Escalade and brand new Mustang sitting in the driveway of my $500,000 home even though I only make $65,000 a year? This credit thing is really sweet. It lets me acquire more material shit even though I really don't have the wallet to back it. It's bullshit that we are in a recession here! Until now, history has shown capitalism to be nothing but a very stable and ever-growing system. All I have to do is work hard, just like my forefathers did when they were in desolate poverty with no hope of upward mobility, because everyone knows that true wealth is created through wages, not through investing capital. Everyone in America was living the high-life until FDR came along and fucked everything up. African American's were really living sweet until then. Socialism's pretty kick ass too, because you don't have to think for yourself. What fun is that? Regardless, it's crap that I can't be out just for me when anthropology has always shown humans to be a collectivist creature. That's fucking unAmerican to be "in this all together!" Bush was awesome, because he showed that just because you have nepotism on your side doesn't mean that you're without merit, even if you are a fucking idiot. Obama's awesome too, because he showed that just because you can speak eloquently and use a lot of ostentacious words doesn't mean you're without merit either, even if you really haven't done anything of substance. Anne Coulter and Michael Moore and some of the most intelligenct and astute social commentators of this generation. I don't listen to them because I have a confirmation bias. I listen to them because they are so objective and unadultered in their analyses.
Disclaimer: All, some, or none of the proceeding text in this post is satire.
