Legalized Rape, you won't hear it from Glen Beck

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:13 pm

KBR, a division of Haliburton, who got contracts for rebuilding Iraq BEFORE the war was even started (Huh, how did they know) had employees sign a contract.

A woman was raped by her co-workers while in Iraq. KBR produced the contract she signed. In small print, she agreed to NOT SUE if raped by other KBR employees. No action can be taken.

A senator tried to pass legislation making the contract illegal. It was promptly voted down and the contract stands.

Where is the Beck/Limbaugh/Fox party (AKA republican party) on this ? Where's the outrage ?

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:21 pm

Show me the proof of this ...

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:32 pm

f.sciarrillo wrote:Show me the proof of this ...

No surprise from me here. I KNEW you didn't read or listen to anyone but Beck and the gang.
http://news.google.com/news?sourceid=na ... e&resnum=5
Google KBR rape. It's been ongoing for a long time. Only recently did Fraken introduce legislation. That's why it's in the news AGAIN.

Really, you need to dervisfy...

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:33 pm

Al Franken? Yeah, I don't listen to anything he says; so I would not know about that. I will look at it here ..

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:40 pm

The worst part is that her company, a taxpayer-funded government contractor, had inserted language into Jones' employment contract that said she could not take allegations of rape and sexual assault to court.

That is just what it looks like to me, so far. Just allegations. More will have to come of it ..

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:46 pm

f.sciarrillo wrote:Al Franken? Yeah, I don't listen to anything he says; so I would not know about that. I will look at it here ..

No...you NEVER heard of it because Glen Beck didn't tell you. Franken only recently got involved. WTFU (Wake the fuck up).

Franken wants to prevent it from happening again. Do you find his proposal wrong ?

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:48 pm

f.sciarrillo wrote:
The worst part is that her company, a taxpayer-funded government contractor, had inserted language into Jones' employment contract that said she could not take allegations of rape and sexual assault to court.
That is just what it looks like to me, so far. Just allegations. More will have to come of it ..

WTFU. The contract reads allegations can not be brought forth ! They are ALWAYS ALLEGATIONS until they are proved in court. The contract DENIES any proceedings. Jeeeeez

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:52 pm

f.sciarrillo wrote: More will have to come of it ..

WTFU. That's the point. Under her contract NOTHING is ALLOWED to come of it. NO DUE PROCESS is allowed. Anti-American as can be !

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 4:54 pm

If you took every allegation that came up the court systems would be full. This happen in 2005. What was going on between then and now? Her thinking about how to come up with something? If what is said turns out to be the case then I agree with them changing it. But until there is solid proof I will wait to make any opinion here. I don't want to see one side and then decide.

Maybe you should wake up. Time to come down to reality here. Not everything is one sided.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:04 pm

f.sciarrillo wrote:If you took every allegation that came up the court systems would be full. This happen in 2005. What was going on between then and now? Her thinking about how to come up with something? If what is said turns out to be the case then I agree with them changing it. But until there is solid proof I will wait to make any opinion here. I don't want to see one side and then decide.

Maybe you should wake up. Time to come down to reality here. Not everything is one sided.

I not saying she has been raped or not. I'm pissed off that those words were put into the contract, denying her a chance to prove her alligations.

Raelity? That contract is REAL. What is your reality ?

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:18 pm

Hawk wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:If you took every allegation that came up the court systems would be full. This happen in 2005. What was going on between then and now? Her thinking about how to come up with something? If what is said turns out to be the case then I agree with them changing it. But until there is solid proof I will wait to make any opinion here. I don't want to see one side and then decide.

Maybe you should wake up. Time to come down to reality here. Not everything is one sided.
I not saying she has been raped or not. I'm pissed off that those words were put into the contract, denying her a chance to prove her alligations.

Raelity? That contract is REAL. What is your reality ?

I don't want to take the side of one person before I make a conclusion is all I am saying. I'm not saying that I believe her, or do not believe her, at this point.

As for reality? There is no reality. Reality is an illusion based on ones own cognate tricks ..

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:38 pm

f.sciarrillo wrote:
Hawk wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote:If you took every allegation that came up the court systems would be full. This happen in 2005. What was going on between then and now? Her thinking about how to come up with something? If what is said turns out to be the case then I agree with them changing it. But until there is solid proof I will wait to make any opinion here. I don't want to see one side and then decide.

Maybe you should wake up. Time to come down to reality here. Not everything is one sided.
I not saying she has been raped or not. I'm pissed off that those words were put into the contract, denying her a chance to prove her alligations.

Raelity? That contract is REAL. What is your reality ?
I don't want to take the side of one person before I make a conclusion is all I am saying. I'm not saying that I believe her, or do not believe her, at this point.

As for reality? There is no reality. Reality is an illusion based on ones own cognate tricks ..

The thread is about the damn contract man. Try and come up with an opinion on the contract. I know having you own opinion is hard, but make an attempt. It might feel good to think by yourself for a change.

Should she be allowed to go to court to attempt to prove her allegations ? Why or why not ?

Was KBR wrong to put it in the contract ? Should it be removed from the contract ?

Go ahead, I think you can I think you can...

nakedtwister · Post by **nakedtwister** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 5:58 pm

As tragic as this situation may be, the reality is the person signed the contract obviously without reading it. The only thing she saw at the time was big pay in the end. Never enter a binding contract without a lawyer reading over it, with you present. They will be hard pressed to get it overturned.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:03 pm

nakedtwister wrote:As tragic as this situation may be, the reality is the person signed the contract obviously without reading it. The only thing she saw at the time was big pay in the end. Never enter a binding contract without a lawyer reading over it, with you present. They will be hard pressed to get it overturned.

I agree, but what the hell is it doing there in the first place ? Why did 30 senators vote against Franken to remove it ? I can't wait to find out who they are.

EDIT: actually i don't completely agree. The contract is anti-American allowing for rape witout due process. It (the contract) should be thrown out.

nakedtwister · Post by **nakedtwister** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:13 pm

Probably because if they allow it to be removed, then any contract agreement can be challenged and thus what is the sense of having a contract. In reality how is the Co. she worked for liable. It's the rapists that should have their nuts removed by dull side cutters.

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:15 pm

nakedtwister wrote:Probably because if they allow it to be removed, then any contract agreement can be challenged and thus what is the sense of having a contract. In reality how is the Co. she worked for liable. It's the rapists that should have their nuts removed by dull side cutters.

Contract protects the rapists as well.

nakedtwister · Post by **nakedtwister** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:30 pm

Is there a link to the contract so one can read what is in it?

Lisa · Post by **Lisa** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:35 pm

yeah, I'd like to see that contract. There is a difference between suing and pressing charges. Case can still be fought. A lawsuit can still happen against individuals. It only protects the company and possibly executives. There again, depends on the wording.

witchhunt · Post by **witchhunt** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 6:45 pm

I remember something on TV that said Haliburton bought all their Ford SUV's from some"buddy" for 60 some thousand each. The same vehicle could be bought at any Ford dealer for 30 some thousand. When they broke down, they would set them on fire. Seems Cheney's name kept popping up, too.

nakedtwister · Post by **nakedtwister** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 7:04 pm

Did I miss something?

Naga · Post by **Naga** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 8:11 pm

Ok. Assuming the contract is real, seeing as that's been the major debate so far,...

Shouldn't US law override any contract like this? If a contract for a hitman is written, it's only considered evidence in court. It's outrageous that a company can even have the audacity to put fine print like this in a supposedly LEGALLY BINDING CONTRACT! I thought US law superceded ANYTHING of this sort!

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Fri Oct 09, 2009 11:21 pm

Bill, did you get this concerned when Slick Willie Clinton was accused of rape by several women why he was in office?

timemoney0 · Post by **timemoney0** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 12:22 am

I can say with confidence that the contract is no legql protection. I tried it once in high school. Even though she signed it, the judge said that because it was written on the back of a pizza box lid, it wasn't binding. But at least the phsyco-therapy made me a better person. I say SUE THE BASTARDS ANYWAY

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 4:13 am

What does people raping a woman have to do with conservatives?

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Sat Oct 10, 2009 1:41 pm

RobTheDrummer wrote:What does people raping a woman have to do with conservatives?

KBR