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tonefight
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I went through a long period not breaking strings but I seem to break them more often now, I'm trying to figure if its strings or my bridge, I switched from D'Adarrio to Ernie Balls and didn't notice right away but it could be that ? Any input or has anyone noticed one type breaks easier than the other?
Oh and I've recently switched to GHS but not long enough to tell a difference yet. ( $3.84 @ wal-mart , probably shouldn't buy them there but it was just too convinient. Got a Rapco cord too for $6 something )
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| Posted: Friday Oct 29, 2004 |
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check your bridge saddles... may need replaced... a quick fix is to rub graphite in the saddle (#2 pencil works great)
I use Ernie Ball and GHS for different guitars... heven't broken a string while playing a live show in a year and a half...
But I change strings after using for approx 20 gig/live band practice hours... I don't count playing at home...
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tonefight
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Actually I'm using graph tech string savers also, I'm thinking its after the strings cross the saddles and go down the hole ( strat type trem ) I think they may be rubbing somewhere in there.
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If you don't play hard, it's in your bridge somewhere...I have found though that certain brands of strings, namely D'Addario, Ernie Ball, and GHS break way more frequently than most. I go through a pack of those in roughly 15 hours (3 days) practice time...2 hours gig time. But then again I play harder than hell on my guitars. I generally use Everly B-52 Rockers or Gibson Brite Wires now and they seem to last about 7 days for me on average....
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| Posted: Sunday Oct 31, 2004 |
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Are they breaking right where it bends at the bridge saddle? If so, it looks like you need a different brand of strings. I'd say you have already done all you can with the saddles by getting the graph techs, unless they have worn out or have a nick somewhere. I don't think they make roller saddles, but if you can find some, that might do it. Unfortunately, you may need what I told you about last Saturday. Dean Markley Blue Steel strings are a bit expensive, but you can get them at online eBay stores for about $5 a set. I hammer on them pretty hard and 9 sets out of 10 last several gigs and wear out before they break. The tenth set? You might break a string before they wear out. They also sound better, longer than anything I've tried in 30 years of pounding stages.
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tonefight
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I haven't broke a GHS yet maybe its the Ernie Balls, No gigs for a month so I'll just leave 'em on and see when I break one.
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| Just be glad your strings don't cost $220 for 4 like mine!! |
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tonefight
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CRIPS what do ya use gold plated or what? Is it for the upright ? even so thats alot of dough
Actually I've been meaning to update, I haven't broke a sting since putting on the GHS strings, I've actually left them on since I posted, I do plan to change them befor the weekend since they are getting dead but no break like the when I was using Ernie Balls
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| Yea, they are for my upright, Velvet "garbo" strings. At least I only replace them once a year or so! |
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I've not read everyone else's post on this, so maybe someone else covered it.
If you're breaking strings, you have to look where you are breaking them at. If you're breaking them at the bridge, do the following,
Check your saddle, where the string rubs through. It should be smooth. If it's not, lightly file or sand in there. If you're not confident, don't do it. It's a quick fix, but you can go a little too deep, and killyour tone, or get a buzz, from the lowered action.
That will work with either a Floyd Rose, or standard trem, or tunomatic.
If you're breaking the strings right at the block (where the block meets the string) on a floyd rose, you may not be breaking the string, you may not have it tight enough, and it's just coming out. The floyd rose lock screw should be snug, and about a 1/2 turn after that.
If you're breaking strings at the nut, check the same thing, if it's smooth. The slot for the nut should angle back towards the headstock of the guitar at a slight angle. If there are any burrs, clean them out, lightly file out any imperfections (again, if you're not confident, don't do it).
You could also have a cracked nut, and it's snagging at the nut. At this point, you replace the nut. It depends on the guitar. A floyd nut is an easy swap, other nuts, aren't hard, but I'd not experiement on my main guitar, if it was my only guitar.
If you're breaking them like mid body length, you could be using strings a bit too large for your tuning (then again, Felix uses like 12s or 13s and bends crazy on them.)
Different brands of strings can affect it also, however, I've used
GHS, Everly, DR, Dean Markley, D'Addario, Gibson, Fender, Ernie Ball, just to name a few, and the only reason I've changed brands is the tone and life of the string, not the breaking factor. So far, I've never broken a string on stage.
One other factor could be in place if you're breaking strings, you're not changing them enough.
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tonefight
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Haven't broke one since I swiched to GHS about 3 months ago
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Mo Lester
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| Posted: Friday Jan 28, 2005 |
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I clean my strings with fast fret after every show. they last for months.
even on the acoustic at a few shows a week.
and Red (BJD), $220? holy shit !
do ever clean yours?
if not, and they get cruddy, use alchohol and a rag to brighten 'em up a bit.
later
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| Posted: Tuesday Feb 08, 2005 |
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| redawg wrote: | | I'll never buy Ernie Bunk strings again. The tone wasn't that bad. I broke them very quickly. |
I agree redawg, the quallity isnt there anymore. I hav'nt been very happy with them either |
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KMFDM ROB
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| Posted: Tuesday Feb 15, 2005 |
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EB is about junk. A guy I know just stopped using them, he said the quality isn't there anymore. I use B52 rockers (as someone else does) and I've never broken a string since I've switched to Everly a few years back. They also work with me (they meaning the company) for repairs I do. great strings, great tone, and long life.
The thing I hate about any string is new string tone. New string tone pisses me off. Say I'm playing a show this Friday coming up, I'll have changed the strings a few days before, just to get that new string sound out of them.
Back when I had like 20 guitars, I wouldn't get around to restringing them all the time, so I had to do it when I had a chance. I've had guitars that have had Everly strings on them for MONTHS pick them up, and they are still good as the day I left them. (not saying don't change your strings, just saying, I know these are good).
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| Posted: Friday Mar 11, 2005 |
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| tonefight wrote: | | Actually I'm using graph tech string savers also, I'm thinking its after the strings cross the saddles and go down the hole ( strat type trem ) I think they may be rubbing somewhere in there. |
Tony.... that's probably where it is happening. If you start to go through this problem again, try this.....
Take the casing off of some heavy guage wire, not too thick that it won't fit into the saddle block, pull the copper wire out of it, and push the casing into the hole of the string that is breaking. Cut the casing about an eighth of an inch above the hole. Now, push your string through the hole and casing, through the saddle and tun'r up.
Buhrs often develop in the saddle block holes, right on the rim, and will cause the string to break from continued bending and such. I had the same problem with my Fernandes... I got the graphite saddles and it continued, I moved to a heavier string, it continued.... I tried this and haven't broken a string in over 2 years.
The nice thing is... it doesn't affect tone unless you bring the casing over the saddle.
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tonefight
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| Posted: Saturday Mar 12, 2005 |
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It was the strings Dan, i quit using Ernie balls about 4 or 5 months ago and haven't broken a string since. I'm actually suprised but hey its a fact. i've been using GHS Boommers since oct and haven't broken one since, before that i was breaking a string probably about every other week.
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