[Possessed]

This is a subject of great debate between many of my friends. We have argued for hours about this.
My vote is for Vai. Although I love Satch, Vai has just gone to the outer limits of guitar playing , composition and innovation.
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[Daxman]

No doubt that Vai is an incredible guitar player...His technical ability is the best bar none, but...With that said and the fact that I do like Vai, my vote was for Satch...He has almost the same ability, but uses it with taste and reserve...The man simply has more soul than Vai, more feelings and emotion...This is not a knock on Vai at all...Here's something that sums it up for me...Remember that interview with SRV when he was talking about playing with B.B.King for the first time?...He said "I went out there and played as many notes as I could trying to impress him and the fans, with little effect...B.B goes out there, plays one note and the place goes nuts!"...Satch can do the same thing...He's the man.
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[tonefight]

Why compare they are both well worth the time to listen and you will get something from each.

Actually I hate when anyone compares or says " the best" its only a matter of judgment and can never be determined.

Enjoy it all

[MOONDOGGY]

My vote goes to Petrucci or Mcalpine!
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[MOONDOGGY]

While on the topic of who likes who better- What about Sheehan or Hamm?
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[Possessed]

Petrucci is one wicked axe slinger. Everytime I see him he gets better, faster, and more creative. And MacAlpine is currently in Vai's band and they are wicked together. Tony plays all the keys and trades solos and harmonies with Vai. And as far as emotion Vai's music has made me well up with tears on numerous occasions. He definitely can pull the feeling and emotion out of that guitar.
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[Punkinhead]

I've got to say that Vai has surpassed Satch in technique but not overrall knowledge and Satch has the superior ability to write a good song. Petrucci's technique is beyond both though...that dude is just amazing....

My preference in shredders lies in Paul Gilbert, Jason Becker, and Yngwie(in small doses) though....
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[ToonaRockGuy]

[Punkinhead]

I forgot to mention Vinnie Moore....

Billy Sheehan, after seeing him with Vai...Wow....
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[Punkinhead]

I definitely agree that Vai and Petrucci's technique are beyond Satch. But in the lessons, I don't know...I've done from both and always like Satch's better....Just an opinion....the lesssons who I've thought were best were Petrucci's anyways. He shows some killer shit...
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[Ron]

One thing I've noticed about their live playing is that Satch plays everything exactly like his recordings. Every harmonic, grace note and nuance is there.
I've never seen another live player do that, including Yngwie, Vai, and Petrucci.
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[Punkinhead]

That is true about Satch. I've seen Vai miss some stuff (even on the G3 vids) and Yngwie improvises every solo. Petrucci, like Vai, is pretty right on every time but, hasn't done everything live like Satch does.
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[esa]

This is the point in time where I get yelled at..
Vai or Satch: Did the student surpass the teacher?
Who are they?
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[Punkinhead]

Buckethead is really good. He probably got paid big bucks to play for them. Hell I'd do it, it's Axl Rose.
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[byndrsn]

I saw David Lee Roth and Steve Vai on the "Eat Em and Smile" Tour - WOW - He was absolutely amazing. We had awesome seats on the side the Steve was playing on - hell, we were so close when he flipped his hair we were getting drops of his sweat!!
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[f.sciarrillo]

Satch is much better than Vai in my opinion, just for the simple fact that Satch is himself and Tries to be real, not to mention I love his melodic tone, I could listen to it for hours ...

I think Satch is more down to earth as far as his style goes, Vai seems to put to many complicated things in his music. Not saying Vai isn't any good, he is amazing. I just think satch's style is more enjoyable and easier to listen to ..
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[VENTGtr]

Ah, they both suck.

Kidding. Technically, they both can do some cool stuff but I think Satch is more musical and
has a better mastery of ho to make SONGS out of several styles and incorporate them well.
"Not of this Earth" had some cool jazz stuff that worked for his songs. Vai's "Flexible" albums were GREAT and I liked his playing up to, and including "Skyscraper". Ya, I liked it.
Listen to it with headphones. Some cool stuff. He did some great production on there.

I don't think I've heard a thing from either of them since Vai's "Passion and Whatever" album
which was a boring, toneless, wank-fest in my opinion, so I guess I'm really back-dated on
the discussion. I'd like to hear Satch get back together with "The Squares" and Vai do a
full album with P.I.L.

Good playing in a good song is where it's at and a good song trumps all.
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[bassist_25]

I think another shredder who doesn't get the credit that he deserves is Nuno Bittencourt. I've loved his work in all of the Extreme albums. Nuno has chops, be he's still a very musical player, IMHO. His tone is second to none too.
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[VENTGtr]

Ya know, I was iffy on Extreme. Still am, though they had some tunes I really liked.

His new band, Drama Gods is pretty cool though. He handles most, if not all, of the vocals.

I'd also agree that he had a good tone.
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[evh5150]

Eat em n smile made me realize that via was better then satch I hated him in whitesnake and yngwie smoked both them in g3 Billy and sarzo rule on bass!!!!!!!!
vai is good but even the karate kid kicked his ass !!!

[bassist_25]

A sound engineer that we work with went and saw G3 a few months ago with Satch, Paul Gilbert, and John Petrucci. He said that he probably enjoyed Satch the most and was very impressed with Gilbert. He seemed to enjoy Petrucci the least, and he's a HUGE Dream Theater fan. A music theory instructor that I once had said that he was never impressed with Petrucci, because he thought that Petrucci never really found a musical voice of his own. He said that he seemed to just be a hodgepodge of other shred heros. Of course, I was all like "That's sacreligious, man!" But I went home, popped in Awake, and you know what? He was right! One minute Petrucci sounded like Satch and the next he was doing some neoclassical shred thing that sounded like it was picked right off of Rising Force. You can't deny Petrucci's chops though, and I still think that he's one badass mofo, no matter if his style's completely original or not. Under a Glass Moon is still my favorite guitar solo of all time.

It's very cool to see Gilbert getting recognition though. He obviously has amazing chops, but he also has great note selection and musicality. I love guys like him who can make their rythmn playing sound big and full without 800 overdub tracks.
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[Colton]

My vote's for satch... I have a few of both their albums, have the Satriani about played out but just cant get into the Vai... Dunno what it is, but i just cant dig Vai as much
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