abortion

tornandfrayed · Post by **tornandfrayed** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:27 pm

And while I am at it.

Because I am "Pro Choice" you all know that I have volunteered to sit outside maternity rooms with an ice pick so that I can go in and drive the ice pick into newborns brains. Now that is what I call "PRO CHOICE"!!

Because as someone who believes that a womans body is her own ( or a wonderland ) I really like to kill babies.

Because i am "Pro Choice" you know that I would be a stupid redneck if I believed for a second that there might be circumstances that would deem an "abortion" solution as any kind of alternative at all. I would be an idiot to think that maybe there are cases where it has to be available as an option. That would just make me want to kill more babies, ahh fresh meat!

It would be dumb of me to support choice. Unless we could find a way to know if the baby might turn out gAy cause then we know that it has no rights and we should just go ahead and pull the trigger.

And I had some asswipe liberal man bitch come up and tell me that Wars kill people too! Yeah asshole but wars kill people in an America, Manly way!

Not with an icepick in the head! Stupid tree hugging pittull haters...

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 1:28 pm

*standing by with his official thread delivers seal of approval*

VENTGtr · Post by **VENTGtr** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 2:32 pm

Ah, the classics.

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 3:48 pm

tornandfrayed wrote:And while I am at it.

Because I am "Pro Choice" you all know that I have volunteered to sit outside maternity rooms with an ice pick so that I can go in and drive the ice pick into newborns brains. Now that is what I call "PRO CHOICE"!!

Because as someone who believes that a womans body is her own ( or a wonderland ) I really like to kill babies.

Because i am "Pro Choice" you know that I would be a stupid redneck if I believed for a second that there might be circumstances that would deem an "abortion" solution as any kind of alternative at all. I would be an idiot to think that maybe there are cases where it has to be available as an option. That would just make me want to kill more babies, ahh fresh meat!

It would be dumb of me to support choice. Unless we could find a way to know if the baby might turn out gAy cause then we know that it has no rights and we should just go ahead and pull the trigger.

And I had some asswipe liberal man bitch come up and tell me that Wars kill people too! Yeah asshole but wars kill people in an America, Manly way!

Not with an icepick in the head! Stupid tree hugging pittull haters...

O.K. What about long term abortins, say like 25 to 35 years later? I'd like to abort some people with an ice pick right now.

slackin@dabass · Post by **slackin@dabass** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 5:53 pm

i agree... i too like to stand outside the doors of a delivery room... but i kill the mother too... with toe nail clippers and a corkscrew

bassist_25 · Post by **bassist_25** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:03 pm

Actually, I'm going to talk about a story on this subject. About three weeks ago, I show up at campus to add a few paragraphs to a paper that I was finishing up and was going to hand in later that day, and as I'm going into the building, there is an anti-abortion demonstration going on. They have the uber-religious slant, the big gag-inducing photo of an aborted fetish, and the whole militant calling out of people walking by she-bang going on. I come out an hour or so later after finishing my paper, and now the Planned Parenthood people are on the opposite side of the sidewalk with their signs. A police officer stands about 50 feet down the sidewalk to quell any riots that may ensue.

I thought about this situation for a few minutes. Philosophically speaking, I'm more aligned with the first group, because I am pro-life. However, if I would have been in that rally, I would have been standing on the Planned Parenthood side, because I believe in birth control. Because...it um...PREVENTS THE SITUATION THAT MAY NECESSITATE WHAT THE FIRST GROUP OF PEOPLE ARE PROTESTING AGAINST!

I really have no point other than seeing my words in print.

JackANSI · Post by **JackANSI** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:09 pm

Personally, and this is the only time I'll ever say a word about abortion, I feel its up to women. Men should stay the f out of it unless they are the ones that did the knocking up.

Its between the mother, father, and whatever flying spaghetti monster they believe in. No one else should get a chance to voice their opinion.

slackin@dabass · Post by **slackin@dabass** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:30 pm

if they had the picture of the fetis, couldn't you get them for child porn?

doug stanhope kicks ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miQ1vnLI ... re=related

Post by **Ron** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:33 pm

bassist_25 wrote:... aborted fetish ...

Hello Dr. Freud!

metalchurch · Post by **metalchurch** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 6:55 pm

Ron wrote:
bassist_25 wrote:... aborted fetish ...
Hello Dr. Freud!

LOL! I was thinkin the same thing!

Gallowglass · Post by **Gallowglass** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 7:05 pm

Ok, here's my deal...personally I am pro-life but I don't feel it's justifiable to push my beliefs on the population at large. Until the secular empiricists concede that abortion is equivalent to murder (which will never happen) or the moral bigots concede that to rob us of our free will (consider the importance of free will in relation to the traditional dogma of say, the Catholic Church) is wrong (which will never happen); the debate is essentially unarguable. BTW, if you are of some persuasion that owes its roots to Zwingli or Calvin I don't see ANY reason to care...but that is another matter...

As it stands, I am content to allow abortion as a choice between all consenting parties involved as a private affair. What gets my dingleberries in a knot is when I am forced to pay taxes that contribute to the Federal funding of abortion. Nowhere do I see that this is an acceptable role for government (I'm a little better on it as far as state funding is concerned). If some hoe & her deadbeat stud of the moment want to murder their baby, let them do it on their own money. I don't want to be complicit in the affair.

Also, take the time to research the origin of Planned Parenthood, Margret Sanger, and the Eugenics movement in America. Ever wonder why most abortion clinics are in minority/low income areas?

KyleMayket · Post by **KyleMayket** » Wed Oct 22, 2008 11:56 pm

slackin@dabass wrote:if they had the picture of the fetis, couldn't you get them for child porn?

doug stanhope kicks ass.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=miQ1vnLI ... re=related

Trying to throw logic into the abortion issue is like trying to kick water uphill, you're not gonna win... Stanhope fucking rules, he was the best telling of the "Aristocrats" joke on that entire DVD.
oh, and as for abortion, it's the womans body, it is her choice, period.

metalchurch · Post by **metalchurch** » Thu Oct 23, 2008 12:19 am

Gallowglass wrote:Ok, here's my deal...personally I am pro-life but I don't feel it's justifiable to push my beliefs on the population at large. Until the secular empiricists concede that abortion is equivalent to murder (which will never happen) or the moral bigots concede that to rob us of our free will (consider the importance of free will in relation to the traditional dogma of say, the Catholic Church) is wrong (which will never happen); the debate is essentially unarguable. BTW, if you are of some persuasion that owes its roots to Zwingli or Calvin I don't see ANY reason to care...but that is another matter...

As it stands, I am content to allow abortion as a choice between all consenting parties involved as a private affair. What gets my dingleberries in a knot is when I am forced to pay taxes that contribute to the Federal funding of abortion. Nowhere do I see that this is an acceptable role for government (I'm a little better on it as far as state funding is concerned). If some hoe & her deadbeat stud of the moment want to murder their baby, let them do it on their own money. I don't want to be complicit in the affair.

Also, take the time to research the origin of Planned Parenthood, Margret Sanger, and the Eugenics movement in America. Ever wonder why most abortion clinics are in minority/low income areas?

Well said Jason! I also take the same stance as you.
I personally have no quams against abortion, as long as it's early term, and has not developed after say 8 weeks.
I would rather a couple choose not to raise a child and go the 'alternative route' at their own financial expense, rather than give the child up for adoption, or worse yet raise the child under the assistance of welfare, assuming that finances were a factor in the decision?
(I'm not against welfare or cash assistance dont get me wrong on that one.) I'm talking about those who use the system as a crutch and dont try at all to get up on their own feet in life.
There's alot of people who dont try, and leech. There's alot who use only what they need to get by. The taxes that they pay go back into that they took out, but that's a whole other topic.
But as Jason said, if that is their ultimate decision, then they are to take care of it with their own finances.
And i think that there should be an avenue in which to loan the couple the money and resources to do so.

The way I look at it is, that people find ways to buy other things in life such as new vehicles and other luxuries in life so then they can certainly find a way to take care of this situation.

This is my opinion on this, like it or not that's how I feel on the subject.

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:35 am

I think "pro-choice" should mean the baby gets to choose.

There are circumstances where I believe abortion is an option, however being a careless whore doesn't qualify. Neither does selfishness, carelessness, or ignorance (this goes for the man that knocked her up too).

Why not put it up for adoption, give the little fucker a chance to have a good life?

tornandfrayed · Post by **tornandfrayed** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 2:25 am

See there Rob we agree. I am "Pro Choice" only because I know that there are situations where the choice should be an option. I would never condone or consider abortion at this point in my life. Pro choice does not mean that abortion should be used as birth control. It just means that if The mother of 5's life is being jeopardized then the father and the family have a decision to make.

It's like if you make it illegal then it is still done but illegally. I think the same holds true for things like pot, we make pot illegal and create a new class of person breaking the law.

Not that the two things are comparable at all....

RamRod 1 · Post by **RamRod 1** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 4:06 am

I hate Abortion as much as anybody but in a free country, people have the right to make there own moral decidions whether I agree with them or not and it ain't gonna change because that's the way it goes in a free country and if I don't like it, it doesn't matter because I don't have the right to make decidions for others.

What bugs me is that the leaders of both major political parties realize that but one Party leads people to believe that they're goal is the change "Roe vs Wade" but it never happens.

Look at the numbers. Roe was 36 years ago. 24 of those years we had Republican presidents. 6 of the last 8 years we had a Republican congress with a Republican president and a Supreme Court consisting with 7 out of 9 judges appointed by a Republican president. It can't get much more Republican or concervative than that yet absolutly NO ATTEMPT to reverse "Roe vs Wade".

So what do you think? Does it ever seem like the Abortion Issue is used as a "Wedge Issue" with NO INTENTION to deliver but to deliver a lot of votes?

Hawk · Post by **Hawk** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 11:28 am

Abortion is the killing of a human being. At any stage of pregnancy. Without getting in to the religious side of it, it is immoral.

I've been for a law against it my whole life. Only recently have I been thinking about the affects of such a law.

With that said, I am not sure if government legislation making it ileagle is the right answer. Too many woman will go to the coat hanger. Or other forms of self induced abortion.

The problem is that abortion in our society is an acceptable choice (by the majority). That is what we need to change. We need to convince society that it is wrong. It is killing. We need to educate people, or convince them, that the unborn child would like to live. And try to make adoption the most viable choice.

Mistress_DB · Post by **Mistress_DB** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:04 pm

I'm pro-choice but only under certain circumstances ( rape, incest, the mother's life is in danger or the child would be born a vegetable with no quality of life).

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 12:09 pm

...spank me.....SnOOge!!

Merge · Post by **Merge** » Sat Oct 25, 2008 9:03 pm

I agree with Mistress_DB, all of those are legitimate reasons for an abortion. I think one of the main abortion issues in this country is how abortion is used as a form of birth control. I know a few girls from this area that have had upwards of 10 abortions. They didn't do this because their life was in danger or the child was going to be stillborn, they did it because pregnancy and parenthood were both major inconveniences to them. If abortion were illegal, some people might think twice about that one night stand, but I seriously doubt it.

Dark Soul · Post by **Dark Soul** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 12:38 am

In my humble opinion, this is why it's pointless to make abortion illegal:

The whole issue surrounding at what point a clump of cells becomes a living thing might be debatable. But under no circumstances should a woman ever be denied the right to have an abortion should she ever become pregnant against her will, as in the case of a rape victim. A woman who is raped has every right in the world to abort the pregnancy if she so chooses.

Having said that, if you make abortion illegal for all instances except rape, then you'll have women coming forward with unwanted pregnancies claiming they were raped whether that actually happened or not just so they can get rid of the kid. Pathetic, but you know how people are. It would happen, and such a thing would be difficult to disprove.

I think it's revolting to think of women using abortion as birth control, but twisted as it may sound, no one has a right to tell someone else what they can and cannot do with their own body.

slackin@dabass · Post by **slackin@dabass** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:29 am

why all the controversy? just punch the chicks in the gut about 2 months in. much easier, and no dumb morality debates

seriously, don't take that seriously

Mistress_DB · Post by **Mistress_DB** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:34 am

sledge hammer to the nuts works just as well too yanno.

Besides, there's a lot of people walking around that should have been a blow job.

metalchurch · Post by **metalchurch** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:35 am

Mistress_DB wrote:Besides, there's a lot of people walking around that should have been a blow job.

Hahaha!! good one!

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:18 pm

Mistress_DB wrote:sledge hammer to the nuts works just as well too yanno.

Besides, there's a lot of people walking around that should have been a blow job.

...And can you tell me anything negative about a BJ?

I stay out of the abortion debate, because my contribution to conception is easily replaced by a turkey baster. Men don't carry babies, go through the painful process of birth, or breast-feed. My job really starts when the doctor slaps the little bugger on the behind, and I help keep him in didy's and onesies. A father really becomes a father at the moment of birth, a mother's work starts at the moment of conception. She's already bonded with the baby for months by the time it's born.
I can lobby the mother one way or another (I'd choose life, if the choice were mine), but in the end, mothers choose. I do agree, abortion as birth control is barbaric, but I'm never going to be the Barbarian, so it's not my call.------>JMS

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