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BloodyFingers · Post by **BloodyFingers** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 9:56 pm

Beifit for Haiti ??? I never put one together, but I thought it would be nice to do a benifit for the people of Haiti. We could give the money to the Red Cross over there. Give me some feed back on this...

Would like to do just a Jam night... Everyone just bring your instruments and have fun........or just put some bands to gether and rock our brains out ????

Naga · Post by **Naga** » Fri Jan 22, 2010 10:10 pm

Hattie? Haiti? Don't mean to make fun... I'm just seeing if that's the page we're on

Basically, I'd say organize with a group of people, have them all write their names on a card or some kind of paperwork, saying you're donating the money to the Red Cross

When he gets out of the hospital, contact Brian (Dirty Sanchez). He's done plenty of benefits, and they're always a good time with a good turnout

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 1:24 am

I watched a long CNN report with Dr. Sanji Gupta who was trying to get medicine for one of the hospitals there. There are piles of boxes of medicines brought in by the US. They are just sitting there, there is no one in charge in Haiti. No one knows what to do. They want everything done for them.

We could keep donating money and goods, and these people have no infrastructure to do any good with it now. They do not even seem to have any local governmental structure. Way before this tragedy there was something very wrong with these people and this country.

The US, Europe and the UN will end up giving billions of dollars but there is no way the average person is going to end up benefiting. I do not see an answer to this long term problem.

RobTheDrummer · Post by **RobTheDrummer** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 2:37 am

undercoverjoe wrote:I watched a long CNN report with Dr. Sanji Gupta who was trying to get medicine for one of the hospitals there. There are piles of boxes of medicines brought in by the US. They are just sitting there, there is no one in charge in Haiti. No one knows what to do. They want everything done for them.

We could keep donating money and goods, and these people have no infrastructure to do any good with it now. They do not even seem to have any local governmental structure. Way before this tragedy there was something very wrong with these people and this country.

The US, Europe and the UN will end up giving billions of dollars but there is no way the average person is going to end up benefiting. I do not see an answer to this long term problem.

...And now for the pessimistic view....

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:03 am

I would say the best people to give it to would be the Red Cross. They are doing a great job with the help down there ...

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 4:13 am

Yeah, Joe, let it go. Haiti is a libertarian promised land. Low taxes. Very small govt. Almost nobody pays taxes. 90% of schools are parochial/religious. Very few regs for business. Formed by violent revolt. Take a good look at it, buddy, it's how libertarian govt works in reality.

Mama Corn would be psyched to play a benefit for Haiti.--->JMS

Banned · Post by **Banned** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 6:42 pm

songsmith wrote:Yeah, Joe, let it go. Haiti is a libertarian promised land. Low taxes. Very small govt. Almost nobody pays taxes. 90% of schools are parochial/religious. Very few regs for business. Formed by violent revolt. Take a good look at it, buddy, it's how libertarian govt works in reality.

Mama Corn would be psyched to play a benefit for Haiti.--->JMS

What a surprise, you do not understand a limited government at all. Haiti has NO effective form of government. Having a limited, libertarian government still means that you have a government. This country was set up as a limited, libertarian government, with clear rules to follow, the Constitution. Giving the Haitian people some form of a Constitution would be the greatest thing one can do for them in the long run. But they really need to do this on their own.

Giving them food, water and medicines now is humane, but cannot go on indefinitely. They must learn to run their own country. Hasn't happened yet, but who knows.

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Sat Jan 23, 2010 8:57 pm

Oh, please! I have to listen to guys like you all the time, and to a man, they all think that the best govt is NO govt, or at the very least, a govt they alone control (which will never happen). You don't want to pay taxes? The end result is what's happening in Haiti right now: because no care was given to updating infrastructure, it could not deal with any strain, and cannot be repaired. Don't like govt regulation and oversight? The fruit of that is that when it hit the fan, a toxic hellhole became a hellhole with stacks of bodies in the streets. The result of parochial schools is the lowest literacy rate in the Western Hemisphere.
As for the US supporting Haiti, that's how libertarianism works. Money has to come from somewhere, or people die. Survival of the fittest and social Darwinism mean that some people don't survive.
This should not be a political thread, plain and simple.--->JMS

BloodyFingers · Post by **BloodyFingers** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:42 pm

As I sed, the money would go to the Red Cross. That is our people down there helping out.

f.sciarrillo · Post by **f.sciarrillo** » Sun Jan 24, 2010 5:56 pm

BloodyFingers wrote:As I sed, the money would go to the Red Cross. That is our people down there helping out.

Yup, my point was to clarify and note that it is a good decision ...

tornandfrayed · Post by **tornandfrayed** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 12:24 am

Yeah red Cross does some good shit! A benefit would be cool, could we challenge people from Rockpage to try to bring lots of people? Or themselves?

Good Idea....

joltinjeff · Post by **joltinjeff** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:01 am

How come when some thing important comes across, some ppl have to turn it into a political thread and hijack the damned thing. I could care less what kind of government they have or how the hell they got it. There are ppl down there and the government has had to turn to the US for help. Of course, we offered too, so. But, Vapor Lock would like to be part of this benefit if it becomes a serious item.

joltinjeff · Post by **joltinjeff** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 1:03 am

songsmith wrote:Oh, please! I have to listen to guys like you all the time, and to a man, they all think that the best govt is NO govt, or at the very least, a govt they alone control (which will never happen). You don't want to pay taxes? The end result is what's happening in Haiti right now: because no care was given to updating infrastructure, it could not deal with any strain, and cannot be repaired. Don't like govt regulation and oversight? The fruit of that is that when it hit the fan, a toxic hellhole became a hellhole with stacks of bodies in the streets. The result of parochial schools is the lowest literacy rate in the Western Hemisphere.
As for the US supporting Haiti, that's how libertarianism works. Money has to come from somewhere, or people die. Survival of the fittest and social Darwinism mean that some people don't survive.
This should not be a political thread, plain and simple.--->JMS

WRONG!!!!
I just done an interview with Father David Arseneault, who just happened to be in Haiti when the earthquake hit. In his interview and I can give you or even send u to wherever u like and read how they have fixed the infrastructure in Haiti even in the smaller towns. Please dont be ignorant and come in here and say they dont have things when they do.

BloodyFingers · Post by **BloodyFingers** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 3:28 am

Well I never put one of these together and have no idea how to do it. Anyone that has the know how want to help ???

songsmith · Post by **songsmith** » Mon Jan 25, 2010 9:58 pm

joltinjeff wrote: Please dont be ignorant and come in here and say they dont have things when they do.

Then why would they need our help?
I'd like to point out that you chastised me for making Haiti political, then made your political statement. I'm just sayin'...

Are there plans for a benefit show yet?--->JMS

BloodyFingers · Post by **BloodyFingers** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 3:25 am

Not Yet

Pizon · Post by **Pizon** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 6:38 pm

Night train would be more than happy to do a benefit if it happens. we're
all Gods people, and whether you agree or not, they need help! It has
nothing to do with politics, just the welfare of mankind.

Blue Reality · Post by **Blue Reality** » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:15 pm

We'll help if we can. Great Idea.

LIMB BY LIMB · Post by **LIMB BY LIMB** » Wed Jan 27, 2010 3:00 pm

I never put a benefit show together either. But I would imagine that..I would talk to the local red cross(or what ever way you want to channel the money down there) tell them your idea of the benefit show. Next you talk to a venue and tell them that it is a benefit and that you have a contact from the charity that they can cross verify easily. If it is a bar or club that agrees have your event they could give the whole door to the cause or challenge them to match the door out of register sales...Or if you go the DIY way and get a firehall, lions club whatever building get the organization to donate the building for the day...Have bands or individuals donate the lights, pa for the day. Then everything would be straight profit for the cause. Hope any of this helps

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