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It's about time he comes out of hiding. I was wondering how long it would take.

http://washingtontimes.com/news/2009/ju ... -of-obama/


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And Yes I agree with him. Obama is an idiot .. He didn't say it directly, but between the lines and his gesturing showed it ...

Also, I am not a Republican or a Democrat - I am a Independent Conservative, there is a difference.
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"HEY LAURA! IT'S THIS FREAKIN BIG ENOUGH FER YA!!!!
I know see the lovefest is over for Obama. ppl are finally figuring out that he lied the entired time.
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Shhh you guys are talkin like a couple rightwing nutjobs!!!Everybody LOVES Barry.Funny nobody wants to talk about what he's REALLY doing.Now he wants the Federal Reserve to regulate pretty much all the money exchanges,caps,keep track of all CEOs.ect,ya know basicly cut the balls off the free market.Yea way to go!!More big government please!!You fricken fish.Thanks for the hope and change suckers!! :twisted: :evil:
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Guys, guys, guys. I guess we will have to just wait a bit and see how this turns out. I was really worried when GWB threw us into war in the wrong country and look how well that turned out...

I guess that speech in Cairo the other day is really what sank him, I know that most in the area consider the idea of working together and helping the needy a far fetched Liberal blow job but....

There are some people outside of "Redneck Heaven" that actually want to help others, they think that the rich cannot be trusted to help. They think that in order for everyone to share they need to have regulations. I also know that a lot of people around here feel like fuck the needy, if they don't work hard they don't get a piece of the pie. Hey as long as you are ready to die by the sword as well as live by it I say more power to ya!

Again, we will just have to wait and see. I also must say that I didn't really see GWB's comments as an attack as more of a "defense of my decisions" kind of thing. I will give the man credit, he believes what he is saying.

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I hear ya Dave,but do you really think limiting wealth is helping the needy?Seriously i don't really see that connection.Just for the record sir you don't know me well enough to call me a redneck, but i see your point,and they in no way make me mad.I think his speach in Cairo was not bad,but i certainly don't think it made believers out of our enemies.The man is destroying the American economy.Printing money at a pace that has never been matched in our lifetime.Taking loannotes out in OUR granchildren's names,from China nontheless.So call it what you'd like my friend but answer me this.When America is toppled by the weight of our own spending and decreasing dollar,and we have NO WEALTH to back anything because we've spread ourselves so thin by cutting everything and everybody to the lowest common denominator.Who will pick us up?Nobody that's who.Although i admire your "peace and love"outlook for the world,it ain't gonna happen my friend.So the best we can shoot for is create that among our family and friends and hope for the best.The minute we forget that life's made up of winners AND losers we've lost our grip on reality.Peace.
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f.sciarrillo wrote: And Yes I agree with him. Obama is an idiot .. He didn't say it directly, but between the lines and his gesturing showed it ...

Also, I am not a Republican or a Democrat - I am a Independent Conservative, there is a difference.
He had 8 years to prove himself. He needs to STFU.
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The think that really gets to me is that since "Barry" has been in office ppl to the very, very far left sit back and point the finger at GWB. I think that is a lot of crap. He is spending and printing money his ass can't cover. Sanchez is right, no one is going to come to our rescue because of all of the things we have done in the past.
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I unfortunately am old enough to remember the Energy Crisis of the 70s and the inflation issues. Then things leveled out for a while and now we are back on the merry-go-round. The last thing we need is a crash on Wall Street
But as long as Barry keeps taking in hopes or recovering, WE ARE SCREWED!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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DirtySanchez wrote:
He had 8 years to prove himself. He needs to STFU.
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DirtySanchez wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote: And Yes I agree with him. Obama is an idiot .. He didn't say it directly, but between the lines and his gesturing showed it ...

Also, I am not a Republican or a Democrat - I am a Independent Conservative, there is a difference.
He had 8 years to prove himself. He needs to STFU.
Hmm .. Well, how about the left quit complaining about him and casting everything on him. I have yet to hear any of them say that it is on their shoulders and they are in charge. All they spout about is how they were left with a mess. Well, this is a mess the was tried to be stopped, but the Liberals blocked it - So who is really to blame for it all ? Hmm - I wonder? Hmm .. Oh, I know; THE LIBERALS !! ;)

Also, Obama is a moron. He has spent more money and put us more in debt in the past 6 months then any Pres. combined before him has done their whole term or two. He is worse than Jimmy Carter ever was. Spend, spend, spend, dig the hole deeper and deeper till every person in this country is on welfare or we are the poorest country in the world. Him and his spread the communist socialist bs is old and over with. He is an idiot and will not be elected for second term, I can guarantee it. He is making this country the worse it has ever been. All because he wants to spread the welfare, tax us out of existence, and spend every cent we have till we owe every country in the world the shirts off our backs. We are coming from being the cops of the world to being the pansies of the world. Yes, Obama is an idiot.
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This whole thing is funny. Bush is basically bashing himself, because there really is no difference between Bush and Obama except that Obama spends more money and is afraid to confront a global threat(N.Korea).....that's about it.
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RobTheDrummer wrote:This whole thing is funny. Bush is basically bashing himself, because there really is no difference between Bush and Obama except that Obama spends more money and is afraid to confront a global threat(N.Korea).....that's about it.
I don't think it is so much that he is afraid to confront it. I think he agrees with it .. Look at his past and who he associated with and you will see it ..
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DirtySanchez wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote: And Yes I agree with him. Obama is an idiot .. He didn't say it directly, but between the lines and his gesturing showed it ...

Also, I am not a Republican or a Democrat - I am a Independent Conservative, there is a difference.
He had 8 years to prove himself. He needs to STFU.
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f.sciarrillo wrote: Hmm .. Well, how about the left quit complaining about him and casting everything on him. .
No.
His administration did it. 9/11 happened on their watch. Manufacturing went overseas during their time. They invaded Iraq. They bungled Katrina. The economy stumbled and fell under their hands. They manipulated the press. They gave the orders for torture. They spent a cool trillion themselves.
So, no. He's still gotten the biggest pass any president has ever gotten, and he was a f**king conservative when you elected him. Barack Obama would have NEVER been elected president had it not been for the failures of the Bush Administration, the sooner the far right realizes that, the sooner they'll get a little power back.
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songsmith wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote: Hmm .. Well, how about the left quit complaining about him and casting everything on him. .
No.
His administration did it. 9/11 happened on their watch. Manufacturing went overseas during their time. They invaded Iraq. They bungled Katrina. The economy stumbled and fell under their hands. They manipulated the press. They gave the orders for torture. They spent a cool trillion themselves.
So, no. He's still gotten the biggest pass any president has ever gotten, and he was a f**king conservative when you elected him. Barack Obama would have NEVER been elected president had it not been for the failures of the Bush Administration, the sooner the far right realizes that, the sooner they'll get a little power back.
Again, no.--->JMS
9/11 was a buildup from previous administrations. Manufacturing has been going overseas for years, not only under Bush, however he should have done something about it. We were all fooled into going into Iraq, which is a war we are winning/have won for the most part. It's actually a good thing Saddam is gone. Orders for torture? What exactly did they do that was torture? Fuck 'em anyway, they tried to kill innocent lives or US soldiers. Every administration spends waaaay too much. Obama is going to be the US history's biggest spender ever! Bush basically was handed a series of events he had to manage. Didn't do the best job, but really we are worse off now than we were under him. I'm not a big fan of his spending. It's just that the ideology of the far left is just unreal and will unravel this whole country and bankrupt it at the same time.
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The arguments are mostly valid. The only option is to watch and see what happens. I waited and watched for 8 years and as an American I felt very much like you guys do right now. I felt betrayed by someone who I though was fucking my Country up the ass. But still I had to wait and watch. I voiced my opinion but was slammed by my peers. I never thought tha6t GWB was a good choice. I know everyone here loved him at that time and loved him when he was re elected, I just never thought the man was doing the right thing. But that was my opinion.

It is always a matter of choices and which ones are the best for the situation. I would really be surprised if any choice proposed on this board would be unanimous ( politically speaking ).

The "Peace Love" thing starts at home. You know you love your kids and your family and your friends. I only say that it is easy to love those who love you. Try loving someone who thinks your a piece of shit. Try converting a people who think that you are a country run by Rich White men.

I guess the point is that we will have to wait and see. Obama is a lot of things but moron is not one of them. I know that no one likes the spending now but what about three years ago? Many great minds agree with what is happening and some say that it is still not enough.

While I might be alone in my belief that we need to let the AIG's, banks and poorly run companies go down, that is not what this president is doing.

I do like the fact that some people refer to Obama as "Barry", almost like you went to college with him. Did anyone here attend Harvard with Barry?

At first I thought it was just name calling but then I realized it was more likely a term of endearment, God knows I had a few of those for GWB, but that would be name calling at this point and I won't go that route.

Bottom line is we can bitch and moan or we can support our president. I know that when the shit hit the fan it was really hard for me to support GWB but when push comes to shove I am an American. I will stand up for GWB, Obama and you and your right to believe and state your opinion.

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songsmith wrote:
f.sciarrillo wrote: Hmm .. Well, how about the left quit complaining about him and casting everything on him. .
No.
His administration did it. 9/11 happened on their watch. Manufacturing went overseas during their time. They invaded Iraq. They bungled Katrina. The economy stumbled and fell under their hands. They manipulated the press. They gave the orders for torture. They spent a cool trillion themselves.
So, no. He's still gotten the biggest pass any president has ever gotten, and he was a f**king conservative when you elected him. Barack Obama would have NEVER been elected president had it not been for the failures of the Bush Administration, the sooner the far right realizes that, the sooner they'll get a little power back.
Again, no.--->JMS
You will see a republican get elected in the next round because of the Failures of Jimmy Carter, I mean, BHO ... If you gave me the choice would chose Bush over what we have now any day.
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I mean really, things have been happening in this country for some time. To blame every single problem on Bush is just silly. Now we have to look toward the future, and Obama is trying to fix the debt by...spending? Oh and raising taxes. I remember at one point in the campaign he promised people who make under $250,000 per year would not see any tax increases. You can also see he's being tested already by North Korea. Do you think he'll do anything about it?
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This is awesome, while the last president was running us into the ground, righties were shouting "America the great will prevail", now six months in same people claiming we're going to hell in a handbasket. Ah, political bickering, enteraining, but nothing more than a waste of time and energy. Carry on folks
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RobTheDrummer wrote:I mean really, things have been happening in this country for some time. To blame every single problem on Bush is just silly.
Duh.. it was all caused by Clinton... everyone knows that.

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shredder138 wrote:This is awesome, while the last president was running us into the ground, righties were shouting "America the great will prevail", now six months in same people claiming we're going to hell in a handbasket. Ah, political bickering, enteraining, but nothing more than a waste of time and energy. Carry on folks
I hope the spending stops. I want fiscal responsibility. I'm not a right-winger, the republican party turned into a bunch of pussies. All I want is less government control and more freedom to the people. This country was built on hard work, people earned their money and were able to get somewhere. Now it's all about what hand-outs you can get and the government is keeping you down. Less government control! I just don't understand why the government wants to go towards full out socialism, it doesn't work and throwing money at problems doesn't fix them. How many times do we have to go through that? Just imaging if they start regulating your diet because they are paying for your health care. Just around the corner.
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The world as we know it is over folks - we don't see it yet - but it's coming. I've never been one to believe in conspiracy theories but now that Obama has lived up and exceeded every fear I had (I did vote and it wasn't for him) I can't help but believe that all the money that is siphoning to the government is headed for those that want to control us, and it ain't just this government. I wouldn't be surprised if Maddoff was involved, too.
But really in the scheme of things the greedy are paying the pipers too. I've given alot to charity over the years but when the taxes that are coming take all my money there will be none left to give. I'm not now nor ever have been rich and I've worked hard for what I have and for what?

At least I will know that I didn't vote for it.
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I hope the spending stops. I want fiscal responsibility. I'm not a right-winger, the republican party turned into a bunch of pussies. All I want is less government control and more freedom to the people. This country was built on hard work, people earned their money and were able to get somewhere. Now it's all about what hand-outs you can get and the government is keeping you down. Less government control! I just don't understand why the government wants to go towards full out socialism, it doesn't work and throwing money at problems doesn't fix them. How many times do we have to go through that? Just imaging if they start regulating your diet because they are paying for your health care. Just around the corner.
I hear what you're saying. It was just an observation of a lot of people having faith in this great country in the last 2 terms, but now have lost it less than a quarter term in. If this is such a great country with the best government, don't you think shit will work it self out?

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I agree with Shredder; these discussions are always pretty funny. People have to follow an ideology. They're right by following it. You're wrong by disagreeing. Labels always help when discriminating and belitteling the outgroup. I actually blame this whole mess on the freegans. Those damn hippies are consuming vast amounts of our garbage, thusly destroying the elephantine solid waste industry that once made this country great. Well, at least that's my pop sociology take on things.

But keep following those ideologies. They'll take us to the promise land. The health care industry hasn't been better. I love spending half my pay check on a bottle of 20 pills. It's awesome that the middle class has been castrated through mass offshoring of manufacurering jobs and now, high-tech gigs that require a graduate-level degree to perform have also moved over seas. That's pretty kick-ass that our sons and daughters get to take glamorous careers at Taco Bell because the American Dream was sold out from under them. As long as I have that sweet gig in middle-management, I'm really having a high standard of living by buying cheaply produced imports from Third World countries. And speaking of a high standard of living, how do you like the Escalade and brand new Mustang sitting in the driveway of my $500,000 home even though I only make $65,000 a year? This credit thing is really sweet. It lets me acquire more material shit even though I really don't have the wallet to back it. It's bullshit that we are in a recession here! Until now, history has shown capitalism to be nothing but a very stable and ever-growing system. All I have to do is work hard, just like my forefathers did when they were in desolate poverty with no hope of upward mobility, because everyone knows that true wealth is created through wages, not through investing capital. Everyone in America was living the high-life until FDR came along and fucked everything up. African American's were really living sweet until then. Socialism's pretty kick ass too, because you don't have to think for yourself. What fun is that? Regardless, it's crap that I can't be out just for me when anthropology has always shown humans to be a collectivist creature. That's fucking unAmerican to be "in this all together!" Bush was awesome, because he showed that just because you have nepotism on your side doesn't mean that you're without merit, even if you are a fucking idiot. Obama's awesome too, because he showed that just because you can speak eloquently and use a lot of ostentacious words doesn't mean you're without merit either, even if you really haven't done anything of substance. Anne Coulter and Michael Moore and some of the most intelligenct and astute social commentators of this generation. I don't listen to them because I have a confirmation bias. I listen to them because they are so objective and unadultered in their analyses.

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Freegans... is that what they are really calling themselves?

Its my god given right as an american to throw away twice as much food in one year than can feed one african village, without someone getting between my refuse and the landfill.

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bassist_25 wrote:I agree with Shredder; these discussions are always pretty funny. People have to follow an ideology. They're right by following it. You're wrong by disagreeing. Labels always help when discriminating and belitteling the outgroup. I actually blame this whole mess on the freegans. Those damn hippies are consuming vast amounts of our garbage, thusly destroying the elephantine solid waste industry that once made this country great. Well, at least that's my pop sociology take on things.

But keep following those ideologies. They'll take us to the promise land. The health care industry hasn't been better. I love spending half my pay check on a bottle of 20 pills. It's awesome that the middle class has been castrated through mass offshoring of manufacurering jobs and now, high-tech gigs that require a graduate-level degree to perform have also moved over seas. That's pretty kick-ass that our sons and daughters get to take glamorous careers at Taco Bell because the American Dream was sold out from under them. As long as I have that sweet gig in middle-management, I'm really having a high standard of living by buying cheaply produced imports from Third World countries. And speaking of a high standard of living, how do you like the Escalade and brand new Mustang sitting in the driveway of my $500,000 home even though I only make $65,000 a year? This credit thing is really sweet. It lets me acquire more material shit even though I really don't have the wallet to back it. It's bullshit that we are in a recession here! Until now, history has shown capitalism to be nothing but a very stable and ever-growing system. All I have to do is work hard, just like my forefathers did when they were in desolate poverty with no hope of upward mobility, because everyone knows that true wealth is created through wages, not through investing capital. Everyone in America was living the high-life until FDR came along and fucked everything up. African American's were really living sweet until then. Socialism's pretty kick ass too, because you don't have to think for yourself. What fun is that? Regardless, it's crap that I can't be out just for me when anthropology has always shown humans to be a collectivist creature. That's fucking unAmerican to be "in this all together!" Bush was awesome, because he showed that just because you have nepotism on your side doesn't mean that you're without merit, even if you are a fucking idiot. Obama's awesome too, because he showed that just because you can speak eloquently and use a lot of ostentacious words doesn't mean you're without merit either, even if you really haven't done anything of substance. Anne Coulter and Michael Moore and some of the most intelligenct and astute social commentators of this generation. I don't listen to them because I have a confirmation bias. I listen to them because they are so objective and unadultered in their analyses.

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